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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Which part of the bible? The Old Testament condones much worse than that (and is far worse than the Qu'ran as a moral guidebook), but Christianity provides some interpretive tools that allow Christians to argue that those prescriptions don't apply. Similarly, you don't see a lot of Jews suggesting people be stoned for adultery. Those tenets have, for all intents and purposes and by the vast, vast majority of adherents been discarded. The same needs to happen with respect to the bad stuff in the Islamic tradition. Pretending that bad stuff doesn't exist in that tradition (or that no one is basing their behaviour on it) doesn't help.

Honest question, do you believe no Christians believe in the old Testament? The old testament condones raping 3 year olds and people still believe in that book. You don't see them marching around each State trying to take them over by killing, raping, and forcing women and kids into slavery.

Those tenets have, for all intents and purposes and by the vast, vast majority of adherents been discarded. The same needs to happen with respect to the bad stuff in the Islamic tradition.

Agreed.

Pretending that bad stuff doesn't exist in that tradition (or that no one is basing their behaviour on it) doesn't help

I don't think anyone is pretending it doesn't exist, it definitely exists and something needs to be done about it. Was just pointing out that while religion does play a major role, there are obviously other factors at play.