Question for Bingo:
Actually it looks like many questions!
You readily admit that you are not informed and are too busy to do the research yourself, but you quickly dismiss those that have done the research and the positions they propose as invalid because of what you see and hear on FauxNews.
If I ever gave you the impression that I'm not informed I shouldn't have. What I was saying was I don't have the time to research things on the spot during a work day to come back at something that seems fishy to me. I haven't read Chomsky, but probably should and likely will out of fascination. But I have read as much as I can get time to read on many of these subject, but likely not the same extent.
And like you or anyone else on this site I think I can be guilty of reading stuff you already agree with to some extent or the other, or at least that enforces things that I think to be true.
I was pointing out before how sad the media world has become because the loss of value in the word fact. You can pretty much prove both sides up and down with facts from sources (and remember I'm slagging both sides) that likely have left out everything that doesn't agree with their slant.
It's a sad state and it bothers me. I've read smoking gun reports that have Iraq WMD moved into Syria before the war that have had me shaking my head. How can that be true if the rest of the world hasn't jumped on it? Like I say sad state, and my disenchantment points both ways to the extreme, not just at the guys on the left.
When does it sink in that those that do the research have found the flaws in the story and discovered the truth? When do you understand that it is people like yourself (those that are busy with their personal lives and don't do the research) that the government counts on to manipulate the zeitgeist?
That's very assumptive again, and something that many of you on this site are guilty of on a daily basis.
You're essentially saying we're right, we've read more on it, and you're a sheep.
I have a real problem with that, and you'll notice that I never make my opinions a matter of fact because I've seen too much crap both ways that conflict to feel 100% sure of anything. It keeps me from boasting how right I am, and it keeps me somewhat hostile at being told over and over again by you guys how wrong I am.
It's just not the case.
You are an intelligent guy and it is painful to see someone so bright being sucked in on such an obvious lie. When does the light bulb go on?
See ... a little flattery helps!
Like I said before ... just because my lamp is pointed a different direction doesn't mean my light bulb isn't turned on. Like yourselves I'm surrounded by highly intelligent well educated people every day that are somewhat conservative in nature and somewhat liberal in nature. Most of our discussion however, is right up the guts with little in the way of the extremes I see on this site. There are plenty of well read, intelligent people that believe the Iraq issue and the 911 issue to a completely different thing than some on this site.
But they're not all idiots.
I think you guys would do well to be a little less intolerant of those that don't agree with what you THINK is true.
Either way ... other than suggesting my head is in the sand I appreciate the non attack aim of your post.