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Originally Posted by 868904
Veterans are not bad. Some of you have to stop thinking like an Oiler fan.
I don't want Engelland, Stajan or Sideman moved. They are good players and very important to the culture and Chemistry of the team. I doubt Treliving is in any hurry to move these guys either.
Jones is up at the deadline, and I'm sure the Flames could move him easily if they wanted to then. Smid is a good player who is paid appropriately, it too bad the Oiler ruined his health.
Raymond has been Treliving only mistake but there was no guarantee that Gaudreau would do what he did so quickly. Raymond was an insurance policy, an expensive one. There still is no rush to get rid of him and there's no need to package assets to do so.
Flames are fine this season with the cap and all the so called "bad contracts" will be in their last year next season which makes them easy to move.
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I agree about the veterans. Pisses me off when folks constantly whine about the "Bad Contracts" for Engo, Stajan and Wideman. These guys are very valuable pieces for more than one reason. Engo was willing to play anywhere in the lineup as a reliable guy which made it a challenge for young guys to crack the lineup. That's exactly what you want. What's more, he really stepped it up when Gio went down, and had a good showing in the playoffs. Stajan of course being a good teammate on and off the ice, can play up and down the lineup. Well worth the money for these guys.
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
For all we know Raymond will pull a Wideman and totally justify his contract this year. He was off to a pretty good start pre-injury. His problem is that he really has but one role, and the team has better and cheaper and younger options in that role. He's not like Stajan, who is useful up and down the lineup and in all areas of the game, on and off the ice.
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If Calgary has a "bad contract" it's Raymond. But even still, I classify bad contracts as a player so overpaid, he can't be moved. Raymond can be moved. Raymond has some tools, but like you said, he doesn't seem to be the right fit in this group. With the emergence of Ferly, the signing of Frolik, Byron coming back, and a forward or two ready to make the jump from the minors to the majors, Raymond can (and should) be moved out.