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Old 08-25-2006, 02:34 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald View Post
There's your problem, you're not getting the quote right. If Iran had said that all Jews need to be wiped from the face of the earth, then I would agree with you as well. But the fact that he said Israel and leaves it at that, he is indicating a geopolitical issue, not an ethnic issue like you were suggesting. IMO Quebec should be wiped from the face of the earth as it would make Canada a much more peaceful place to live, but I don't wish that on Quebekers living there. I would like to see the political construct that is Quebec obliterated and have them conform to the standards outlined by the rest of Canada. It's a political statement, not a statement towards the people.
Since you can no longer seperate the Jews and Israel due to the recognition of a Jewish homeland by both the League of Nations and the United Nations, then you can no longer seperate the statement calling for the removal of the Jewish homeland and the extermination of the Jews that live there. Beyond that repeated attacks on Israel by mainly Islamic based nations using advanced Military gear as oppossed to Diplomacy is a basic statement that the only accepted way to remove Israel is to wipe it and its people off of the map.

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Here's a question that I think is at the root of this, and I've yet to get a resonable answer from anyone one the subject matter. Why should the Jews have a country homeland, when no other religion has the same need? Religion knows no political boundries, yet we make a special exception for the Jewish religion. Why?
Beyond the fact that the Jews were being exterminated in mass numbers by the German's and the Russians, and they were refused shelter by other nations during World War II. That the Jewish people settled in the area of Jeruselum (sp?) in about 1000 B.C. and were mass exiled.

They later returned and established a kingdom based around Jeruselum after they revolted against a General who had made the practic of Judism illegal.

Basically from a historical claim, the Jews have a right to that land, from a financial standpoint when Palestine landowners sold much of the land to the Jews. From a legal standpoint based on both the League of Nations and the UN's proclamation that the Jews had a pre-existing right to a country of thier own based where it stands now, and from a moral right the Jews had a right to thier own homeland that they could defend based on thier historically bad treatment by the Germans, the Russians and other Nations.

This has less to do with a specific religion gaining rights over another religious groups, and more about legal rulings on a world stage.
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