[Thor]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Thanks for the video Thor, but even you have to admit that there are questions in this agreement that are going to be heavily scrutinized

Of course, its not a perfect deal by any means. But the fear mongering going on about the deal is over the top. It all comes down to what is the option if not to reach this agreement, which was hard fought by many nations, this isn't like the US media seems to think, a US deal with Iran.

The alternative is bad, and we all know the hawks wan't to take an aggressive approach to Iran, possibly including air strikes and eventually a war. We have seen how much blow back the Iraq war has created, with the chaos in the middle east, more radicalization, more terrorists.. If we went the same route with Iran, we will have plenty more chaos.

I'm not saying its a terrible deal, I'm not saying its a great deal, it falls somewhere in between, and its really written as a 10 year solution. At the end of the 10 years, there doesn't seem to be a lot of incentive for the Iranians to continue it. It rightfully does need to be scrutinized before being approved, though it seems unlikely that its going to be stopped as this president see this as his legacy in Foreign Policy and will enact his veto if his opponents attempt to kill it.

Yeah its hard to say how this will turn out, I am optimistic because of what we know about Iran's people, its young people. This is a society dying to become more westernized. The agreement takes away a lot of the propaganda the hardliners use, to blame all the problems of their people on the evil west.

http://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/youth

Youth is the largest population bloc in Iran. Over 60 percent of Iran’s 73 million people are under 30 years old.

Iranian youth are among the most politically active in the 57 nations of the Islamic world. As the most restive segment of Iranian society, the young also represent one of the greatest long-term threats to the current form of theocratic rule.

Young activists have influenced the Islamic Republic’s political agenda since 1997. After the 2009 presidential election, youth was the biggest bloc involved in the region’s first sustained “people power” movement for democratic change, creating a new political dynamic in the Middle East.
The Islamic Republic forcibly regained control over the most rebellious sector of society through detentions, expulsions from universities, and expanding the powers of its own young paramilitary forces.

But youth demands have not changed, and anger seethes deeply beneath the surface. The regime also remains vulnerable because it has failed to address basic socio-economic problems among the young.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/irans-le...ays-1436323115

The young people of Iran are the ones celebrating this agreement and this is what frustrates me, that the cynics in the west seem oblivious to this youth movement that aligns more with us in the West and is eager to see change and removal of a theocracy.

By an agreement like this, we choose to support them. By not finding an agreement we just strengthen the position of the hardliners and allow them to continue with business as usual.

Just by listening to the passionate youth of Iran speaking on their future, I can't help but be excited about the possibility of Iran moving away from theocracy and becoming friendly to the west. But we can just as easily change that by following the right wing desire to bomb, invade and take aggressive action against them. If we go that route, we help turn the youth into anti-american youth who will support the hard liners, and yet again lose a massive opportunity to reach a generation that will be in charge of this nation in the upcoming 2 decades.