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Old 07-29-2015, 03:30 PM   #1324
Parallex
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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc View Post
If we are going to trade for a pitcher we have two choices: 1) Empty the farm completely or 2) Trade Bautista or EE.
You can’t subtract an important part of the offense for Pitching… a run is a run is a run whether it’s a run made or a run saved they all count the same.

Trading away a productive hitter for a productive pitcher is a net gain of nothing. It’s robbing Peter to pay Paul and entirely unproductive. Besides a team that’s selling will want futures (AKA not Joey Bats or EE) and a team that’s contending won’t want to trade away a good enough pitcher to justify that cost (least of all to a team that has pretentions of contending themselves).

With regards to selling the farm, yes that is seemingly what it costs (the proverbial arm and leg) to get a very good pitcher under team control... look at what the ask on Carrasco was. It's entirely to high so the Jays are gonna have to go out and look for a bargain rental. A bargain rental won't be an ace but really we can get by on just a good pitcher to replace the DFA'ed today Felix Doubant.

I'd be targetting Hisashi Iwakuma... He's been good in the past but his results this year have been pretty poor. Delving into his stats a bit deeper reveals that it's due almost entirely to a seemingly random spike in HR's allowed. He's not giving up more flyballs nor more line-drives so he's not being hit any harder he's just had a bit of bad luck. Maybe that plus his lack of reputation can supress his cost enough that it'll work for the Jays.
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