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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
So did anyone who hasn't seen the movie actually watch it?
I know it's full of leftie scumbags like people named Eisenhower, victims of 9/11, former military and CIA folks, historians, veterans, soldiers et cetera and it does dredge up those tired old clips of George, Dick and Don bald-face lying to everyone, but it's a good show.
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I can see by your sarcastic offering that anything I say will likely fall on deaf ears, but I did watch it, and to avoid commenting on it would be a cop out in my mind.
First off ... very well done. A little on the propaganda side that the maker was trying to suggest was wrong in the first place, but that was to be expected.
The retrospective:
Gave me some real pause to the actual inner workings of the US and their conflicts and it does raise some serious concerns I have to admit (any jaws dropping?). They do tie things up with a bow and we all know nothing in life is that simple, but the whole enterprise sure does seem like a runaway train that needs to find some checks and balances. Think tanks with suggestions is a long way from think tanks running the show and I'd like to know where the line is drawn and how much input they actually have. None of us really know, but it would be interesting. The Hallaburton thing was handled fairly in my opinion, they didn't paint Cheney as complicit, but the fact that he's the VP and they are allowed to bid, regardless of how many ties he broke with the company comes across badly, as McCain pointed out. However, how do you not allow them to bid if Cheney has stepped down and removed all financial ties? That's not fair either. System needs to change.
However:
I think it would have been a little more rounded if they included a section on the burdens of being the worlds only superpower with the fall of the USSR, and how they're in a no win situation. They were pleaded to help out in Liberia, the world just finished a plea for Washinton to step in on the Hezbollah Israeli issue, Clinton was feeling pressure to go into Serbia. It's a tough line. There have surely been US interest wars, but there have also been conflicts that have fallen to the US out of pressure from the smaller kids on the block.
Iraq:
I'm in full agreement on the sell job that went into that war, and I'm not surprised that they did the sell to get the US citizens behind it. I'm not as convinced that it was done for industry or blood thirst however, and truly do believe that they had a huge fear that the next 911 was coming from the direction. The attack that day moved Bush from a guy that had no foreign policy to an administration that was quickly looking to make sure they found that next enemy and avoided a similar attack. I think they were as suprised as anyone that WMD were not there, and then made a huge blunder for not just stepping up and admitting they were wrong, but that they had to stay and help Iraq form a new government and get on. Instead they spun other reasons and that was down right rediculous.
Anyway ... hammer away. I've tried to be fair and avoid insults or hyperbole.