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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I wonder how much of a root cause lack of mental health care is though. I would think that poverty is probably the biggest factor and wealth redistribution will never happen short of an all out revolution, which of course will likely involve a lot of guns.
I think the only thing to do at this point is go all out on taking guns off the street and changing gun laws. Reallocate resources from the war on drugs, and focus more on guns. It's probably hopeless either way though.
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The root cause of suicides and most of the mass shootings is probably lack of diagnosis, treatment and support for people struggling with mental health issues.
I don't think anyone would have an issue with the police or government putting a program in place that takes guns out of the hands of criminals and off the streets. The problem is that you can't legislate guns away from criminals, who by definition would not follow a ban or restrictions place on firearms by a law.
If all the effort that goes into trying to restrict a magazine capacity or making something harder to get because it's black and has a pistol grip went into taking guns away from criminals, it would do a lot more good. Because at the end of the day, the only person who is impacted by a law requiring a mag to be pinned at 10 instead of 15 or 17 is the law abiding citizen, the criminal with the same gun doesn't care about that law and the fact that it is illegal won't affect his decision to use a "prohibited" magazine.
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Yeah it's true. For me the issue ultimately comes down to (using 'you' in the general sense):
Does your right to have a gun on your person at all times (really regardless of the type) supersede my right to feel safe in a public place?
I would say no, not even close. Gun advocates would likely argue that them having a gun makes everyone else safer because they can take out the bad guys, but there are a block of swiss cheese's worth of holes in the line of logic.
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The problem is that there is no right to "feel safe" in a public place. Imagine trying to legislate that, it would be impossible since you can't define "feeling safe" for 100% of the population.