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Old 07-21-2015, 01:36 PM   #272
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Originally Posted by peter12 View Post
It is frustrating to make any kind of point when it is repeatedly mis-read, mis-characterized, and mocked.
You're against the degradation of marriage as a whole, and see SSM as a symptom of that degradation. So along that vein, you are against it (and yes, you did says so "per se" in your very first post) as a product of the entire institution of marriage being broken down.

That's fine that you don't like the traditionalist view of marriage changing. But it literally has nothing to do with SSM. The landscape of the degradation of marriage was changing LONNNNG before SSM even became an issue to discuss. It began with women becoming people, not property (a good change), and continued with legalizing divorce (generally, I would say a good thing as a means to escape terrible marriages for either gender), then with interracial marriage (viewed pretty much the same as gay marriage as far as this marriage breakdown issue) even further with the introduction of common-law relationships being pretty much equal (legally) with marriage, and now we're into SSM. There's a whole shwack of issues that pre-dates SSM as a means to destroy the modern family.

Much of what you posted seems to suggest that this (degradation of marriage) is an actual goal of SSM advocates, when it's really just a symptom of gay people wanting to be married, and YOU (and others like you) view it as further degradation of what marriage means. That doesn't make it a fact. And, really, most on the other side of the argument would say that this only helps to expand on what marriage means and help everyone who wants to be included in such a tradition to do so.

So the main question back to someone such as yourself is; how, for the love of all that is holy and pure, does SSM affect anything that you do, how your marriage is structured, or how it's viewed by anyone that matters (ie you, your spouse and your family)?
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