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Originally Posted by peter12
This is not a point. The problem is that families are for the raising, and nurturing of replacements. You need to produce children, and you are right, the whole idea of a family has basically become a lifestyle choice. Adoption is one thing (and I quite addressed that), but the new biotechnological advances are entirely something else.
What does this have to do with homosexual marriage? Plenty of hetero couples have kids in and out of wedlock, or are married and don't have kids. Further, the biotech advances are not only used by homosexuals, and i would venture to guess that they are used, in the vast majority, by hetero couples with reproductive problems.
Some important reading material for you here  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tr...h_Normal_(book). Legislation does compel everyone to accept a new norm. While I don't entirely agree with Michael Warner, he does make a compelling argument that the SSM debate has actually increased conformity among homosexuals, setting a new standard. Or as I argued previously, an attempt to change marriage from within.
So this is a systematic attempt by the entire LGBT community to change your personal idea of what marriage is supposed to be? Yeah, no... They just want to get married. If that changes things for you, for some unfathomable reason, that's your own issue.
We are in the midst of a marriage apocalypse where common-law habitation is through the roof, marriage is declining everywhere (except among the upper classes - see my previous post), and families are shrinking below the level required for generational replacement.
Again, what does this have to do with SSM?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/census...mily-1.1137083
As I said, painstakingly, and you ignored, crudely, this really doesn't have anything to do with homosexuality, or my acceptance of them as human beings with relational dignity, but more-so with my concern about a sociological shift away from families with relational responsibilities towards individuals who only understand themselves as autonomous. All of the posts in this thread have confirmed my view
Ok, this still has nothing to do with same-sex marriage |
So your last sentence pretty much renders your thoughts completely useless in this thread. If you have a problem with society's changing attitudes about marriage, fine, start a thread on it. But it literally has nothing to do with SSM, and I really don't see how your making a conclusion that one has anything to do with the other.
As a kid of divorce, I would say that my apprehension from getting married has much more to do with what I saw between them (and at least half of my friends' families) that anything to do with SSM. In fact, I could say that it's never even been a consideration for me. Why would it? Why is it a consideration for you?
You think the reason to get married is to have kids and raise them in a family environment. Fine, do that. Let other people do what they feel is a appropriate for them. And, again, if what other people do within their marriage is going to affect you personally somehow, that's your own issue. Because it can't and doesn't.