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Originally Posted by Cheerio
I think you're not really understanding the point of corsi/fenwick etc. The reason these stats were invented was because there were 0 ways to track possession in the NHL. If you watch a soccer game, where ball possession is tracked very well, you'll notice that possession correlates to winning. Corsi and fenwick are the best indicators of possession that exist for hockey, if you're shooting the puck, you have possession of it (obviously) and if the puck is being shot at your net, you don't. So corsi doesn't treat a bad angle shot, or a blocked shot as a good thing, it's treating it as a single data point where team X had the puck, and team Y didn't.
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I understand what the proponents of corsi and fenwick want them to do. I don't agree that they accomplish that.
Taking a bad shot is a bad play. It might indicate that you used to have the puck, but it doesn't indicate that you made the right play with it.
You say Corsi and Fenwick are the best indicators of possession that exist, but I say they aren't good enough. It won't be long and we'll have real possession data once the players and puck are all chipped up, and my contention is that we'll find out that corsi and fenwick weren't really tracking much of anything useful.