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Old 07-14-2015, 07:14 PM   #38
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The problem with expecting a revolution in Iran is that leadership in Iran is derived from the leaders being the head of the #####e religion and any challenge to them is heresy. I don't dispute that there are many young people yearning for freedom. In fact, there are millions of them. Unfortunately Iran is a country of about 80 million people, and the majority still profess loyalty to the Ayatollahs.
Apperantly you have not read anything previously posted. But ok, 44 million of Iran is under 30 years of age. The majority of them are liberal leaning, by Iranian definitions.

The "majority" still profess loyalty to the Ayatollahs... Ok, you are aware that if you do not profess loyalty, you will be imprisoned, killed, tortured...

Castro has massive support, so does Putin... So obviously those are the genuinely held ideals of those populations.

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Not only do you have to deal with the religious nutjobs, but the Ayatollahs have done a very good job of creating other means of support trough the military, secret police, corruption, nepotism, and bribery.
Will continue to be a struggle. I'm curious, would you move us back to isolating China, or the current method of not only engaging China, but making them a major economic partner?

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I don't disagree with you, that people in Iran want freedom. My point is that it's going to be a lot harder to come by than you are making it out to be. Although I hope I'm wrong, the Ayatollahs are not going anywhere soon.
Can you please point out where I said this would be easy? I have only said quite clearly that we have 2 options:

1. Sanctions, isolationism against Iran. Israel cheers!

2. Lifting sanctions, bringing Iran into the modern world.

If it takes a decade or a few, one clearly is the better solution. You made the point of Cuba being a modern place if ONLY we lifted sanctions.... But nope, Iran becoming a part of the modern diplomatic world is only going to hurt hardliner isolationists. You seem to agree with the worries of the right wing US politicians, usually that means you are on the wrong side of history..
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