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Calgary4LIfe · 07-01-2015, 12:42 AM

I don't think anything gets done for the next few weeks. Treliving will be working hard on the UFA market, and re-signing the RFAs he just qualified.

Hope he does end up re-signing in the 6.5-7.5 range. This allows the Flames to place an artificial cap on the rest of the team for the next few years with Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett, and will allow the Flames to 'build a winner' by having additional cap room to bring in other impact players and to keep other existing ones happier (i.e. Bouma on his next contract if his scoring keeps repeating itself, Ferland if he starts finding the back of the net regularly which he probably will, etc).

7.5 million won't put him in the Weber, Suter and Subban category. The first two are making way more money than that with their heavily front-loaded, long term cap circumventing contracts. Subban's contract didn't have the relative luxury of being able to a cap-circumvention, so his cap hit is 9 million (8 years, 72 million IIRC).

These new contracts for 'star players' are going to be very interesting moving forward. The dollar amount is going to get substantially larger vs years past due to CBA plugging holes into cap circumvention. You just can't compare Giordano's money to Weber's and Suter's.

I am still hoping for a deal around ~7 million AAV, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that he gets something close to Subban. Who here will argue that Subban is a better player than Giordano is right now? Of course Giordano's age will (or at least, SHOULD) impact the term he ends up signing, but he 100% belongs in Subban's level. Some would argue he should be a little higher, given his all-round play and leadership.

My thoughts is that wishing for 6.5 is a pipe-dream, but he won't be signing 9 million either. 7.5 should be his AAV, and hopefully his term is not longer than 5 years. Hoping for a sweetheart 3 year deal (but that is definitely a pipe-dream as well).

However, if he signs at 7.5, there will be a massive round of "OMG, he is making Weber/Suter/etc" type of money, when in reality, he will be making far from it. I just don't see how you can compare contracts in today's market with those that managed to circumvent the cap. Heck, didn't Weber (and Suter, and Parise, and a few other notable players) make 22 million or so in 366 days?

07-01-2015, 12:42 AM	#327
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	I don't think anything gets done for the next few weeks. Treliving will be working hard on the UFA market, and re-signing the RFAs he just qualified. Hope he does end up re-signing in the 6.5-7.5 range. This allows the Flames to place an artificial cap on the rest of the team for the next few years with Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett, and will allow the Flames to 'build a winner' by having additional cap room to bring in other impact players and to keep other existing ones happier (i.e. Bouma on his next contract if his scoring keeps repeating itself, Ferland if he starts finding the back of the net regularly which he probably will, etc). 7.5 million won't put him in the Weber, Suter and Subban category. The first two are making way more money than that with their heavily front-loaded, long term cap circumventing contracts. Subban's contract didn't have the relative luxury of being able to a cap-circumvention, so his cap hit is 9 million (8 years, 72 million IIRC). These new contracts for 'star players' are going to be very interesting moving forward. The dollar amount is going to get substantially larger vs years past due to CBA plugging holes into cap circumvention. You just can't compare Giordano's money to Weber's and Suter's. I am still hoping for a deal around ~7 million AAV, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that he gets something close to Subban. Who here will argue that Subban is a better player than Giordano is right now? Of course Giordano's age will (or at least, SHOULD) impact the term he ends up signing, but he 100% belongs in Subban's level. Some would argue he should be a little higher, given his all-round play and leadership. My thoughts is that wishing for 6.5 is a pipe-dream, but he won't be signing 9 million either. 7.5 should be his AAV, and hopefully his term is not longer than 5 years. Hoping for a sweetheart 3 year deal (but that is definitely a pipe-dream as well). However, if he signs at 7.5, there will be a massive round of "OMG, he is making Weber/Suter/etc" type of money, when in reality, he will be making far from it. I just don't see how you can compare contracts in today's market with those that managed to circumvent the cap. Heck, didn't Weber (and Suter, and Parise, and a few other notable players) make 22 million or so in 366 days?