[Party Elephant]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Timbo goes off the Deep End part 2 an Examination


Pardon the spelling corrections as I am now on my desktop. And I corrected a few errors. Still there may me more grammatical errors.

Underlined are my responses to my original post calling out Oling and his play to this point.

Let us look at the post that started this all.


Yes again my opinion

So Oling was the player who initiated the pass the spore and lynch the recipient idea. Agree or disagree?
Again this is fact.
Post #8 which really is post 5 not counting mazrims posts.



Is it possible Oling gave us look what I got in my right hand and passed on what he had in his left?

Okay how many yes boxes have you ticked in the facts i posted, you have no choice but to check yes if you are true.

mrkajz44 what is your response to this?
Dissentowner what do you say to this?
Party Elephant please I would like to see your response.

Everyone else please look at facts not semantics.

Alright one fact at a time.
On day 1 the two frontrunners, active and girly, were both town. In fact the only non confirmed town to receive votes were me, hg and lego man with one each. Hard to point fingers there especially with so little to go on day 1.

Day 2. The only hammer we've carried out. 9 players were sold on the idea that Oling passed the spore to girly and that we should stop it. As of this point in the game we have seen no evidence that this was untrue. I've come to accept it as what happened. The spore timelines that have been fleshed out since seb was killed all correlate to this. Yes of course oling passing the spore was the root cause of girly's lynch, but we've seen nothing to indicate it was anything but true. I was skeptical of trusting Oling at that point and didn't vote for Girly. You did. Fact.

Day 3. Oling voted for ECF, but so did two other confirmed town (at the time) in devo and seb, not to mention me, another townie . Documented fact.

The day 4 clusterfata is way more on bizarro than oling, never mind the large group of us who were around and had time to change votes but didn't. I personally wanted to put pressure on bizarro as him and I hadn't been seeing eye to eye that day and force him to cast the deciding vote - a mistake I did my best not to repeat on the devo lynch. Solely blaming oling for the no lynch ignores at least half a dozen of us who could have done something to stop it but didn't, particularly bizarro. It's a documented fact that oling didn't vote, but it's your opinion that it was for nefarious reasons and you're taking a pretty narrow minded view of the situation in my opinion.

I'm not going to pore through the oling/squiggs exchange because I have to sleep and work at some point in my life, but squiggs remains at or near the top of my scum list.

In case you haven't noticed, some of us are in favour of a government agent reveal. I personally feel that we need the extra info to make a more informed vote before it's too late. We are way too divided with less than 24 hours to the deadline. How is asking for a reveal "not hunting scum"? If anything, it is the most effective way to get the town reliable information to direct this possibly crucial vote, and the worst the scum can do in response is send them the spore with a 1/4 chance of turning. If they even have control of the spore right now.

This bit you have here:"HG15 makes points about how the same scum would not vote in sequential town lynches.
and here Oling goes On Townie lynch , Off, On Townie Lynch, Off, On Townie Lynch
Olings voting pattern is “on record and fact”
Maybe HG is wrong and Scum have been voting in unison. "
In my TVR analysis I've found that there are hardly any distinguishing characteristics in everyone's vote patterns. Scum have done a VERY good job blending in with the rest of us in terms of voting patterns so far. I'm not sure what conclusion you're trying to draw from oling's vote pattern because it isn't much different from the rest of us. He is one of SIX (aka half of remaining) players with a final TVR of 3/5. Again, these are all facts, other than my insinuation that scum have done a good job blending in, which I don't see how you can argue that.

So when you say everything oling has done has not been in the town's favour you're stretching a bit. There are too many of us with bad voting records for us all to be scum (yes, I am one of the six with a high TVR).

I don't know how many "boxes" I've ticked with this post but it's safe to say I don't agree with your analysis.

Originally Posted by Timbo

Now if you notice I have not taken an ungodly amount of quotes and given them conformation bias.

I would have preferred if you did. Quotes would help paint your narrative rather than expecting us to take your word for it. And you're welcome for the fun new term

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

This post reeks of confirmation bias.

Originally Posted by Timbo

I'm not ashamed to say I had to look up what confirmation bias is.

Originally Posted by Timbo

I’m shaking the scum tree and the maggots are falling off.

Party Elephant , I list on my scum list and he suddenly finds suspicion on me? Baited hook and scummy fish caught.

Good luck with that. You've been able to lay low with the safe vote of mrkajz for 3 and going on 4 deadlines - my definition of hiding in plain sight. I don't think you actually want him dead as a town flip would shoot your TVR up to a very scummy 100%!