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Old 06-23-2015, 09:52 AM   #1514
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Ok, how about the whole, if a person had a gun in that church where those poor people were shot, or the theatre in Denver then this shooting wouldn't have happened or there would have been less casualties. I'm sorry this is ludicrous to me, the mass shooter has the initiative and the commitment to his plan, you know the one that involves killing everyone. You get some jacka%% with a gun and a hero complex who has little idea of what he's doing, fill him with a bunch of adrenaline and all you might get is a shootout where innocent people get killed, oh sure you might get the criminal, but I will always put the money on the guy who has the initiative, the planning and the determination to mass murder or rob a liquor store or whatever. On top of that the main mission in the face of a mass murderer is to protect lives, but if you have a yahoo with a gun playing Sherriff Lobo instead of finding a way to get people to a safe spot and maybe barricade it and slow down the attacker more lives are lost.
Recently in Las Vegas, there was a couple who went on a rampage and I believe killed two cops in a coffee shop before terrorizing a nearby WalMart. There was a citizen with a conceal-carry at the Walmart and had his firearm with him. You know what happened? He pointed it at one shooter and told them to stand down. The other shooter shot him in the head from behind.

A police tactical unit was what finally ended the situation, not some guy who thought his conceal carry would save his life. Unfortunately he died, but NRA sure didn't pipe up after that occasion.

There needs to be a culture shift in America, and a major one at that. I oft think to myself how ironic it is to hear all this anti-Russian rhetoric in mainstream media, yet America certainly is one of the most backward countries around. Poverty, crime, corruption, gun culture, religious zealots, the imperial system...
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