[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by driveway

I like a lot of things in this plan, though if we got into a lengthy debate, I'd start making some arguments around racism and classism being baked into the legal system in opposition to the 'all gun crimes require life sentences' provision.

The big problem is that, without a repeal of the 2nd, each and every part of it would face at least one, if not multiple, Supreme Court challenges.

That's why I think a repeal of the 2nd needs to come first. It doesn't necessarily need to lead to a plan as drastic or draconian as the one I'd favour, but it allows for the possibility of sensible controls.

With the presence of the 2nd in the Constitution, the possibility always exists of any gun control legislation being declared unconstitutional.

Repeal the 2nd first, then get to work on establishing a reasonable legal framework around guns.

You can talk about repealing the 2nd amendment all you want. It is never going to happen. That movement will never have the level of support necessary to repeal an amendment.

That's why I feel it is necessary to start with realistic measures.