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Old 06-18-2015, 10:58 AM   #154
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Implicit in having no wife and fathering no children is no sexy redheads. Further, while you can argue over "guarding the realms of men", traditionally that is far more applicable to the wildlings being the ones from whom the realms are protected, and Jon's interpretation is a heretical one at best. He also allows Sam to live in what is pretty well a marriage, despite being the Lord Commander who is supposed to put the kibosh on such milksop ways.

I really like Jon's character, btw, but he's just not good in the sense that some characters are evil; his goodness is a struggle, while these others are not only comfortable in their evil but positively delight in it. Focusing on who is good or evil isn't the point, the point is that there's Evil with a capital E, but no Good with a capital G opposing it. The Lord of Light insists on human sacrifice, the Many-Faced God has assassin/priests, the Seven are apparently good with either fanatic puritans or corrupt lechers running their church; anyone who has access to power inevitably has to murder to keep it; anyone innocent gets raped or killed or brutalized.

Maybe that's what the story demands, but I don't think so. I do really like the show, but on binge watching it I get the impression that the writing is confusing dark and cruel with deep and meaningful.
See, but if you're looking for a Good character, you have it in John. Maybe he is breaking his oath, but he is doing it for Good reasons. That's what you wanted, jammies. Allow yourself to enjoy it.
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