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Old 06-16-2015, 11:46 AM   #97
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I was actually more upset about Stannis quick decline to his demise than about Jon. However, I knew about Jon's fate beforehand.

And I kind of hate Melisandre for leading him to his end. Of course she just up and leaves as he was about to march..ticked me right off. Him and Davos had Jon's support and that's good enough for me to get behind. I was actaully getting invested in their camp even though I knew Stannis wasn't exactly good. Thing is he was the only one of the contenders that actually gave two ####s about the realm. But if both have truly perished then I think I'll cease to care. I mean it'll be enjoyable to watch I'm sure but my "guys" are out. It's like watching the cup finals when it's two teams you kind of hate and certainly don't care for. I don't care to see Dany sit on the iron throne. She's gotten her way too often over the entire show and hasn't had to face the trials that other characters have. I'd just like to see some sort of clashing or game of sorts (ala Holmes vs Moriarty) between Littlefinger and Varys, and to see Tyrion get immensely wealthy and powerful, and have all the women. As long as those things happen, the white walkers can wipe everyone out. I won't be sad.

#### you Brienne of 'Tard
#### you Melisandre and your lord of lies, too
#### you Dorne, for being so underwhelming
#### you Arya, stop making friends with bad people
#### you army of the dead, y u so slow?
#### you Ser Allister Traitorface
#### you Olly, how can you look Jon in his doe eyes and shank him?
#### you Tormund, where you go??
#### you Sam, crows before hoes.
#### you Ramsay, but keep up the evilness
I could be completely wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure there is more to it then what is leading on. At first glance it looks like Melisandre is bailing when the going gets tough. I don’t believe is the case at all. I believe in that moment Melisandre had an epiphany. Melisandre sacrificed Shireen to save the champion of light. When the snow melted, it wasn’t for Stannis, it was so that she could get to the wall to save the true champion of light, Jon Snow. She didn’t realize it until that last moment with Stannis. She will bring Jon back to life and Jon will be released from his vow of the Nights Watch because he had “died” before being resurrected by the Red Lady.
When you go back and rewatch the episode where Melisandre sees Jon for the first time, she notices something about him. Initially you may think that she may see him as a kings blood sacrifice, but I believe she sees something great in him but not sure what yet. She realized it was in that moment that final moment with Stannis that it was Jon who is the champion of light. I also believe the “I’ve been worrying about Jon for years he always comes back” line from Sam Tarly to be some serious foreshadowing, along with "Kill the boy and let the man be born" from Maester Aemon.
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