[GreenLantern]

That was a ok finale.. they tied up some things at least. I guess Ramsay isn't lying to John in the books about killing Stannis and his crew. Did all those riders that abandoned Stannis go join Ramsay?

A lot of frustration in the show thread, but I don't understand how they think they are spoiler free? The biggest spoiler of all, John being the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark due to their baby making at the Tower of Joy, is still out there. If I was a show watcher I would still be very careful where I went.

I can't see John being dead, why would Martin admit he is going to reveal who his parents are in WoW if John isn't in the book at all? He will be resed and he will be free of his Nights Watch duties because technically they are 'until death', which he has already experienced. How they reveal it will be interesting though.. Reed is the only one who is alive still from the battle at ToJ, but I suppose they could always have Bran do a weirdwood flash back. I always thought it would be so cool to see that battle in the show through a flashback.

If they really wanted to piss people off they should have done it the same as in the books. Have John read a letter from Ramsay and decide he is going to rally and take the North making all of us cheer with excitement just before it happens.