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Originally Posted by ricardodw
There was a 1000 post thread before the 2013 draft with the poll Lindholm or Monahan or other.... Lindholm 333, Monahan 311 other 31...
I would suggest that with Lindhom picked at #5 CP would have been pretty united in hating any pick other than Monahan.
I argued for Monahan because he was bigger than Lindholm.....and Lindholm had only 1 minor penalty the whole year in the SEL.
Now Lindholm had 108 hits over the regular season to Monahans 39.
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Yeah, you didn't just argue Monahan was bigger, you vehemently argued Lindholm was a soft player despite all evidence to the contrary.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Yes.... He is a soft very talented scorer.
Are you saying that he is something other than a soft talented forward? How would you claim this?
Nothing wrong with being a soft talented scorer.
The Flames have emptied the cupboard of tough forwards. They have loaded up on soft talented guys..... Even if Lindholm is extremely talented he will not be successful on a small soft team ..... (Edmonton, Calgary).
To argue that a guy who is so disengaged physically that he only takes 1 minor penalty in 50 games is not soft is incredulous.
If the Flames do draft Lindholm and he is NHL ready in 2014-15 who will be his linemates? What will it cost the Flames to pick up Dustin Brown? Keep in mind that Baertschi has to be protected as well.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
why do you feel he plays physical ?
2 PIM in 48 games????
Compared to Fosberg who had 102 PIM in his last 50 games in Sweden before he joined Quebec.
Even the Sedins had 22 and 28 PIM in their last year in Sweden.
Seems to be extra soft even for the team the Flames have become.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
The Flames have put themselves into a position where they just can't ignore the toughness aspect of the game.
If there are two players with close to equal skill the Flames have to pick the one with the extra grit.
Cundari over Smith
Regher over Butler
Mcgratton over Alui over Byron
Even though both Smith and Butler are both "Couture/Sedin" tough.
Bouma or Hanowski over Horak
Rienhart over Cervenka
Monahan over Lindolm.
Horton over Hudler or Cammalleri or Tanguay or Stajan or Stempniak.
Baertschi and 2 of Hudler or Cammalleri or Tanguay or Stajan or Stempniak should be our talented non-gritty guys. all 5 of them are talented but none of them are going to create room for Baertschi or come to his defense in a scrum.
If you want Lindholm then you have to get rid of all but one of Hudler, Cammalleri,Tanguay Stajan or Stempniak...
If you want Lindholm and Gaudreau and Baertshi in the line-up then there is no room for any of the fab 5 (Tanguay, Cammalleri,Hudler, Stajan or Stempniak)
Backlund , in my mind, has graduated out of the all-skill no-grit category.
When Monahan as a 17 year old took a cheap shot he didn't like he went and whaled on Mitchell Heard who was a 20 year old who fights a lot.
If Monahan is within 10% of Lindholm's skill set and the Flames don't go for the big D-man Nurse then it is fairly obvious that the Flames will pick Monahan.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
What doesn't make sense is that none of the Lindholm is so tough we can't stand it crowd doesn't know how to do a little research and push back at me with some facts rather than feelings.
I get a feeling that someone read a blurb that compared Lindholm to Peter Forsberg who was nails tough and the sheep just went with he has to be tough.
Peter Forsberg , by the way, stayed another 4 years in Sweden and came to Quebec .... not the team that drafted him as a 22 year old.
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