[Hockeyguy15]

If Diss ends up flipping as a host, there is a possible link between him and mrkajz.

Earlier on day 1 when Diss had 2 votes against him he says this. It's a subtle but he tries to get the attention off Diss and onto Party Elephant and Seb.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Yeah, the last post by Diss is a bit odd. Oiling sort of nails it on the head, just seems like such a weird post to make with days to go until the deadline and only 2 votes have been placed. However, re-reading Diss' posts, I just don't get the feeling of scum and I think he just was venting a little frustration of being targeted early. I'm interested to see his future posts as alluded to above.

For me, thinking about some of the posts that came off as "different" early on, I have to say that Seb's strategy definitely caught my attention. It has some merit for sure, where there is simply too much noise with lots of posts. Sort of a direct shot against "the more information the better". It's a bit outside the box, but not a terrible idea.

However, what struck me as much more interesting was the way Party sort of latched onto that idea and ran with it. It seems like Seb thought out that strategy and wants to stick to it, but Party just grabbed a hold of the same idea and uses that to explain a very low post count, that has little to no content. Party also said they were new to Mafia, and I'm guessing drawing a Mafia card in their very first game would be very nerve racking and the fear of slipping up would be great, hence the low post count without much substance. Their instant vote sort of tears down that argument though, but maybe it was just heat of the moment?

So, I'm sticking to my idea of waiting until Monday to make a voting decision because posting is so infrequent on the weekends, but Party is at the top of my list for now. I'd like to hear a little more from them.

He follows up that post with this comment about Diss. I find it interesting that he says Diss was talking gameplay quite well already, much more than many others. Posted below his quote is the gameplay Diss was doing at the time.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Okay, just saw that Diss replied while I was typing. That response sort of confirms my thinking. Diss is talking gameplay quite well already, much more than many others at this point. I think the "2 votes already" post was just a frustration post, nothing more.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, so like I said before, HG15 seems most suspect to me. He is participating in the game yet trying to steer attention anywhere but himself. The facts are it is early so it is super hard to get a read on anything. Oling played a brilliant game last time yet turned out to be scum but something tells me he is on the straight and narrow this time, gut feeling. SebC's posts are strange but maybe that is just the way he plays. Same with squiggs, coming out early with his vanilla comment but what to make of it? It is basically a crapshoot at this point and we still have time to figure out the voting which is why I have not voted yet. If I did it would be HG15 right now unless something changes. Or do we vote for someone not participating and lurking? Anyhow, if I was scum I would not be calling attention to myself and I would rather we not waste votes on me and hurt the passengers early on when it would be in my best interest to try and sniff out one of the bad guys.

Fast forward to today, the vote count is 2 for me (Diss and PE) and 1 for Diss (me). He posts this write up saying he thinks I'm town, but leaves the door open saying he can see the other side of the argument. Puxlut had previously voted for me, so maybe they are hoping she will be the 3rd vote on me and it will snowball keeping Diss out of the cross hairs.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

The HG angle is interesting. I checked out the post count and HG has 162, with second place being just under 100; so HG has ~60% more posts than the second most active poster. Hard to argue that HG is not steering the ship, or at the very least, is key in the direction of the conversation each day.

He was definitely the leader on the Girly lynch. Here are a few of his first posts after the spore reveal that were directed at Girly.





He essentially decided immediately that Girly turned because her first post was not "I did not turn". I'm not saying that was terrible logic at the time, but as the day wore on and more logical discussions were made, HG did not back down and may have been the beginning of the end for Girly.

It just seems like HG likes to be the driver, makes decisions somewhat quickly and is hard to convince otherwise. Now the question is: would that be scum behaviour, or would that just be a strong town personality? I would think just strong town, but I'm starting to see the other side of the argument.

The vote is now 3 Diss (me, Timbo, bizaro), 2 me (Diss, PE), 2 mrkajz (ECF, devo). mrkajz now comes on and posts this. Again, maybe they are hoping Puxlut will hop on the train and sway the vote their way since she is confirmed town and voted for me in the past.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

I tried to get the username mrkzatchwpfh, but it was taken unfortunately, so I had to go with mrkajz44

As for my "drive-by posts", I am quite busy at work and therefore do find it hard to find time through-out the day to post. I tend to find a lull in the day and try to make bigger posts, as I cannot check in constantly. I can see how that would be seen as "drive-by" as the conversation has usually moved on once I get a chance to check back, but that's just the nature of how my work is right now.

The more I think about it, the more I see HG as being Oling 2.0 this game. As stated before, he has a ton of posts and has a great deal of influence in where the conversation is going. It addition, I feel he's getting quite aggressive, so I wonder if a few of us are onto something:



His reply to me when I said HG might have been the beginning of the end for Girly was simply "I didn't like her reaction". I am still curious as to why HG ignored the logic of other posters, and seemed to be a bit headstrong about changing opinions. I also feel his "owning" of getting Girly lynched is a bit of a "I'm running the show, try to stop me" sort of thing:



Looking at the votes, he was both in on lyching Active and Girly, and in my opinion, quite central to both their lynching. I think the hosts would be okay with a stronger personalty such as HG get in on both votes, and even steering people in that direction. Afterwards its easy to claim "well, a host wouldn't be on both lynches of townpeople". It's a good decoy and HG's style plays right into it.

Vote: Hockeyguy15

Diss later on unvotes me and votes Timbo, possibly because there has been talk from a few people that they think he is a host. Maybe they saw that the votes weren't piling up on me like they had hoped and tried to move the votes to Timbo.