[RedMan12]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Which goes back to my point, that America could have been content to sit out of the war and supply weapons and not lose a good chunk of thier younger generation.

We can't really argue this much fruther

England was taxing them and taking the profits and not giving them representation in the government. It foster in the growth of a country.

That's my point American colonies went to war to have more money.

The stopping of the advance of slavery and the loss of control of the government were the primary reasons for the civil war. The actual fighting started due to the confederate states seizing federal territory which is the same as an armed attack.

Cotton was the primary reason for war. America didn't want to lose it's indusrty. The Civil war started in 1861, I believe the emancipation proclamation was issued in 1863. 2 years after the war started they said they are freeing the slaves. Free slaves meant the south could not produce as much cotton. Thus crippling the Southern economy.

don't take this to a personal level, that certainly not what I called it, but thats how the American's perceived entrance into the European conflict before thier entrance. There were inklings but no indications that the slaughter of the jews was happening. The war didn't threaten the continental U.S. until the Japanese stupidly decided that attack the U.S. and removing its pacific fleet as a threat was a smart move.

How can you call it stupidly? Lets say you live in the middle of nowhere and I am you main source of food. You do something I do not approve of. So I cut of your source of food. What are you gonna do? Sit back and die?

Remember that the Japanese bought the trade boycott upon themselves by invading thier neighbours, and they were prewarned by the American's that there would be consequences to that action. The American's did not want to go to war with anyone at the time, so why would they attack, but cutting off trade and freezing assets was deemed as a proper warning shot to cut off Japanese aggression.

This is exactly the American attitude I do not approve of. Since when is America the world police? Since when is it their right to say what country is allowed to do what. America did not have permission to go into Iraq by the UN but they did it anyway. Maybe other countries should cut off trade with them. The American government is one the biggest hypocrites.

Of course its not better for innocent victims to die, something that the Japanese were far better at creating by slaughtering thier enemy civilians in wholesale numbers.

DO 2 wrongs make a right? Was it American civilians they were slaughtering? Japan and the rest of Asia have a thousand years of war history with eachother.

Unfortunately WWII was a terrible war, the Japanese did it, the Germans did it, The American's did it and the Germans did it. The Atomic bombs were deemed neccessary back then to prevent the further loss of life on a far greater scale, and to hold off Stalin's plans to advance and seize as much of the Japanese territories as they could.

Oh how suprising the real motive rears it head. It was never about saving lives. It was about scaring the crap out of Japan and the rest of the world. America had the real power made sure everyone knew it.

At the time of the cold war, the Russians influenced and held much of Europe in terror, how communism looks now is irrelevant as we've now had 20 years of armchair quarterbacking to fall back on. But at the height of the cold war the Soviet Union was a terrify spectre of military power, that seemed to get involved where ever they could since one of the big mantras of communism was global socialism in our time no matter what the means.

The exact same thing can be said about America. America had nukes pointed a countries during the cold war. America is hardly the good guy. Both sides were the bad guy.