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Smartcar · 06-01-2015, 01:11 PM

So everyone uses chip and pin now, but every once in a while the pin doesn't work and you have to swipe the card. But there was a situation a couple of months ago where the card wouldn't swipe either. So the server asked for ID and the guy produced a drivers licence. The photo matched and the name on the credit card also matched, so she punched in the numbers manually, took a rubbing of the credit card using a pencil and wrote down the DL number. The charge went through, he signed it and left a very generous tip.

A month later he contests the charges through his bank, and it turns out that because we didn't write it up on a manual sales slip with an imprint using the bank's imprinter (we haven't used it for years, I have no idea where it is now), they reversed the charges and I have no recourse. I thought maybe he knew that and deliberately messed up his card to take advantage. His card wasn't reported stolen, he just contested the charge. I was sure this was fraud and called the police, but they said it's a civil matter and not fraud. Although they did check the DL and said it's valid and hasn't been reported lost. So I have to sue him, which is probably more trouble that it's worth for $190. But he's probably doing this all aver town so I'd like to. But I only have his name and DL number, no address because the server didn't write it down.

The registries say they can't provide that info, it's protected personal information. Does anyone know of an inexpensive and legal way to get an address from a DL number?

06-01-2015, 01:11 PM	#1
Smartcar Scoring Winger Join Date: Feb 2012 Exp:	How is this not fraud? And how to get contact info from Drivers Licence number? So everyone uses chip and pin now, but every once in a while the pin doesn't work and you have to swipe the card. But there was a situation a couple of months ago where the card wouldn't swipe either. So the server asked for ID and the guy produced a drivers licence. The photo matched and the name on the credit card also matched, so she punched in the numbers manually, took a rubbing of the credit card using a pencil and wrote down the DL number. The charge went through, he signed it and left a very generous tip. A month later he contests the charges through his bank, and it turns out that because we didn't write it up on a manual sales slip with an imprint using the bank's imprinter (we haven't used it for years, I have no idea where it is now), they reversed the charges and I have no recourse. I thought maybe he knew that and deliberately messed up his card to take advantage. His card wasn't reported stolen, he just contested the charge. I was sure this was fraud and called the police, but they said it's a civil matter and not fraud. Although they did check the DL and said it's valid and hasn't been reported lost. So I have to sue him, which is probably more trouble that it's worth for $190. But he's probably doing this all aver town so I'd like to. But I only have his name and DL number, no address because the server didn't write it down. The registries say they can't provide that info, it's protected personal information. Does anyone know of an inexpensive and legal way to get an address from a DL number?