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Old 08-12-2006, 12:22 PM   #54
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During and after WWII American had one of it's biggest industrial growths. American factories couldn't pump out weapons fast enough and large companies like Boeing and others where becoming filthy rich from the war effort.
Which goes back to my point, that America could have been content to sit out of the war and supply weapons and not lose a good chunk of thier younger generation.


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American greed was the man reason. Colony merchants and business was booming. They felt were selling tobacco, food, clothing and other goods to England. Meanwhile England was taxing them and taking away from they profits. I am not saying the American revolution was bad it just wasn't for the glourious reasons American history makes it out to be.
England was taxing them and taking the profits and not giving them representation in the government. It foster in the growth of a country.


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The south wanted out of the Union. Much the same way America wanted out of England's control. During the mid 1800's textile was the North's largest industry. The south controlled almost all of the cotton, used in the textile facoties, in the world at the time and was making alot of money. The north did not want to let go of that indusrty. Slavery and State Rights came after the fact.
The stopping of the advance of slavery and the loss of control of the government were the primary reasons for the civil war. The actual fighting started due to the confederate states seizing federal territory which is the same as an armed attack.



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A European adventure eh? If that's what you call murdering 6 million jews and gypsies. The war did threaten the continental US.
don't take this to a personal level, that certainly not what I called it, but thats how the American's perceived entrance into the European conflict before thier entrance. There were inklings but no indications that the slaughter of the jews was happening. The war didn't threaten the continental U.S. until the Japanese stupidly decided that attack the U.S. and removing its pacific fleet as a threat was a smart move.


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If American cut off all trade and was essentially starving a country to death, attacking a military base is justified. If I remember correctly American dropped Atomic bombs on 2 cities filled with more civilian presence then military presence. It's better for innocents victims to die then soilders whose job is to die and fight right?
Remember that the Japanese bought the trade boycott upon themselves by invading thier neighbours, and they were prewarned by the American's that there would be consequences to that action. The American's did not want to go to war with anyone at the time, so why would they attack, but cutting off trade and freezing assets was deemed as a proper warning shot to cut off Japanese aggression.

Of course its not better for innocent victims to die, something that the Japanese were far better at creating by slaughtering thier enemy civilians in wholesale numbers.

Unfortunately WWII was a terrible war, the Japanese did it, the Germans did it, The American's did it and the Germans did it. The Atomic bombs were deemed neccessary back then to prevent the further loss of life on a far greater scale, and to hold off Stalin's plans to advance and seize as much of the Japanese territories as they could.




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You make it sound like Russia ran all od Europe, hardly true. Communism sure looks all powerful now doesn't it. The cold war was a war of 2 super powers afraid to lose their power.


And getting beat by a smaller guerilla army.
At the time of the cold war, the Russians influenced and held much of Europe in terror, how communism looks now is irrelevant as we've now had 20 years of armchair quarterbacking to fall back on. But at the height of the cold war the Soviet Union was a terrify spectre of military power, that seemed to get involved where ever they could since one of the big mantras of communism was global socialism in our time no matter what the means.
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