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1qqaaz · 05-22-2015, 01:10 AM

I would add Jon Gillies to the short list of people who are definitely not moving. He's a much better prospect than basically everyone else who has not played in the NHL. I also highly doubt that Hickey would be traded unless another team really overpaid.

There are a lot of prospects that have almost no value and would probably not be traded. A number of people from he 2010-2011 drafts can probably be moved (too crowded, running out of time) without much regret. This list could include people that have value, yet find themselves unlikely to make the opening roster for next year.

As many of you are saying, I would think this list includes: Granlund, Reinhart, Agostino, Hanowski, Ramage, Sieloff, and Arnold.

GranlundA bit like Backlund in how he plays defensively. Problem is, he's softer and probably has less heart. He is a good prospect and probably has pretty good value. A team like Minnesota might like him.
ReinhartI don't think we should trade Max now, because we would be trading while he has low value. They really should have traded him earlier, but probably not just for the sake of making a deal. He will probably rebound at least a bit this year.
AgostinoHe just doesn't seem like a good enough prospect to ever hold a meaningful spot on the Flames. However, he did finish off the season strong, and he might have some value. Now would be a good time to trade him.
HanowskiHe is a good leader on the AHL team. He's also a decent player down there. He probably doesn't have much value, yet he has a good impact on the minor team.
RamageRamage probably has very little value. He could be thrown in on a deal for a team that is looking for a little more depth on their AHL blueline.
SieloffTo be honest, I never thought he was a great pick. He has no offense, is not even that great defensively, and is too small to play his game. Thus, he is very injury prone. Taking large amounts of minor penalties does not help the team. I would trade him while he still has any residual value from being a second round pick. Luckily, the Culkin and Kulak picks seem to be paying off.
ArnoldI really like Bill Arnold, and maybe other organizations do too. He seems to be an all around player. He could likely help the AHL team, and could even take a spot as a third liner in the future. I would not be opposed to trading him for a reasonable price. If he does not perform well this coming year, his value will likely decrease (he's getting older). Now might be a good time.

A lot of these guys have low value, and would basically be toss ins in deals (like Patrick Holland in the Cammy deal).

Jooris could also be traded, because I feel like he did not improve much as the year went on. 0 points in 9 playoff games is not really all that impressive. Other teams may have noticed him and could see value.

If the Flames decide to keep both Ramo and Hiller, there would likely be 3 goalies competing for jobs during the preseason. If Ortio loses out to both Ramo and Hiller, I think he should be moved. There is no reason that Gillies should not get the majority of the time in the AHL (unless he is really disappointing).

05-22-2015, 01:10 AM	#11
1qqaaz Franchise Player Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Indiana Exp:	I would add Jon Gillies to the short list of people who are definitely not moving. He's a much better prospect than basically everyone else who has not played in the NHL. I also highly doubt that Hickey would be traded unless another team really overpaid. There are a lot of prospects that have almost no value and would probably not be traded. A number of people from he 2010-2011 drafts can probably be moved (too crowded, running out of time) without much regret. This list could include people that have value, yet find themselves unlikely to make the opening roster for next year. As many of you are saying, I would think this list includes: Granlund, Reinhart, Agostino, Hanowski, Ramage, Sieloff, and Arnold. GranlundA bit like Backlund in how he plays defensively. Problem is, he's softer and probably has less heart. He is a good prospect and probably has pretty good value. A team like Minnesota might like him. ReinhartI don't think we should trade Max now, because we would be trading while he has low value. They really should have traded him earlier, but probably not just for the sake of making a deal. He will probably rebound at least a bit this year. AgostinoHe just doesn't seem like a good enough prospect to ever hold a meaningful spot on the Flames. However, he did finish off the season strong, and he might have some value. Now would be a good time to trade him. HanowskiHe is a good leader on the AHL team. He's also a decent player down there. He probably doesn't have much value, yet he has a good impact on the minor team. RamageRamage probably has very little value. He could be thrown in on a deal for a team that is looking for a little more depth on their AHL blueline. SieloffTo be honest, I never thought he was a great pick. He has no offense, is not even that great defensively, and is too small to play his game. Thus, he is very injury prone. Taking large amounts of minor penalties does not help the team. I would trade him while he still has any residual value from being a second round pick. Luckily, the Culkin and Kulak picks seem to be paying off. ArnoldI really like Bill Arnold, and maybe other organizations do too. He seems to be an all around player. He could likely help the AHL team, and could even take a spot as a third liner in the future. I would not be opposed to trading him for a reasonable price. If he does not perform well this coming year, his value will likely decrease (he's getting older). Now might be a good time. A lot of these guys have low value, and would basically be toss ins in deals (like Patrick Holland in the Cammy deal). Jooris could also be traded, because I feel like he did not improve much as the year went on. 0 points in 9 playoff games is not really all that impressive. Other teams may have noticed him and could see value. If the Flames decide to keep both Ramo and Hiller, there would likely be 3 goalies competing for jobs during the preseason. If Ortio loses out to both Ramo and Hiller, I think he should be moved. There is no reason that Gillies should not get the majority of the time in the AHL (unless he is really disappointing).