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Old 05-18-2015, 12:29 PM   #365
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Originally Posted by GirlySports View Post
It just shakes up the team. Redmond in Miami doesn't do a lot wrong either and ownership had a firesale a couple of years ago. Miami had a slightly worse record than Toronto last year with a much worse team.

The manager sets the tone of the clubhouse. Who is the manger of this team? Is it Gibbons or Bautista?
I suppose that is a possibility, but who are you going to replace him with that is going to do better? I'm asking honestly - is there someone in the minor leagues that should be brought up, or an ex-manager that would look good? The only way I really see a move happening where it benefits the team both immediately and long-term is if there's some hotshot guy coming up from the minors.

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The Dickey deal looks awful right now. Syndagaard(sp?) made his second start for the Mets today and he can bring it, he looks to be exactly what the Jays need right now. Losing Stroman has really hurt,but heading into the season everyone thought the bullpen would struggle and AA needed/ needs to address that. I would not be sorry to see John Farrell let go again.
Well of course the Dickey deal looks terrible right now but I think the one that is far worse is the Marlins deal. If the trades AA made turned the Jays into a reliable playoff team over the past three seasons (perhaps with a deep run or even a World Series victory), you do those trades every single time. Both of those deals more-or-less went as poorly as they possibly could. With the benefit of hindsight, they look terrible.

The Marlins deal is especially glaring in hindsight - we were all in awe that AA could pull off that trade without trading any of the Jay's 'big prospects' (They kept Syndegaard and Sanchez!!), when it's becoming clear they were able to do so because those contracts were awful and the players they got weren't all that great. That should have been setting off alarm bells. We also have to keep in mind that the Jays were trying to take advantage of a competitive window with EE and Bautista. While in hindsight, maintaining status quo (not making either trade) would have been preferable, it would have been pretty bad asset management at the time.

It seems like AA saw two options in front of him: Cash in some of the team's fantastic prospect depth for some right-now help, or cash in the right-now players for some fantastic prospect depth. Can't blame the guy for choosing the former route as the for-prospects trade he made with Halladay didn't actually turn out so great.

As for the game, great to see the Jays get some timely hitting, however Redmond turned back into a pumpkin in the top of the 4th, giving up 3 runs to bring the Angels back within one. So frustrating.
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