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CorsiHockeyLeague · 05-12-2015, 09:20 PM

My point was, they are similar in some respects - their 5 on 5 shooting percentage was almost identical and 2nd in the NHL. Both teams had a low CF% but a GF% well north of 50% in 5 on 5 situations. Both had a PDO over 100. Both teams were roughly league average in shooting percentage on the power play. Both teams leaned heavily on their top blue liners while giving the bottom guys limited minutes.

They are also different in many respects - as was pointed out, Calgary's ESSV% was 18th this year while Colorado's last year was 6th. Calgary shot over 17% in 4 on 4 situations this year; Colorado was at 12.68%. No one on Colorado is as good as Giordano. Etc etc.

When someone says that Calgary is "this year's version of X", it's an obvious oversimplification. But they probably don't mean to imply that they're an identical team to the Colorado or Toronto teams of yesteryear. Rather, they're suggesting that like the success of those previous teams, future success by this year's Flames squad shouldn't be expected to repeat, although possibly for different reasons from those other teams. You can still say that position is wrong, but not if you're proceeding under a misapprehension of what's being claimed.

I would note, for example, that I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the Flames probably won't shoot 17% at 4 on 4 next year. However, you might well look at their 8.8 even strength shooting percentage and think, "even if they don't do that again, it's not unreasonable to think they'll be above average and certainly better than the 7.8 they shot in 2013-2014". There are degrees of reasonable expectation.

05-12-2015, 09:20 PM	#37
CorsiHockeyLeague Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2015 Exp:	My point was, they are similar in some respects - their 5 on 5 shooting percentage was almost identical and 2nd in the NHL. Both teams had a low CF% but a GF% well north of 50% in 5 on 5 situations. Both had a PDO over 100. Both teams were roughly league average in shooting percentage on the power play. Both teams leaned heavily on their top blue liners while giving the bottom guys limited minutes. They are also different in many respects - as was pointed out, Calgary's ESSV% was 18th this year while Colorado's last year was 6th. Calgary shot over 17% in 4 on 4 situations this year; Colorado was at 12.68%. No one on Colorado is as good as Giordano. Etc etc. When someone says that Calgary is "this year's version of X", it's an obvious oversimplification. But they probably don't mean to imply that they're an identical team to the Colorado or Toronto teams of yesteryear. Rather, they're suggesting that like the success of those previous teams, future success by this year's Flames squad shouldn't be expected to repeat, although possibly for different reasons from those other teams. You can still say that position is wrong, but not if you're proceeding under a misapprehension of what's being claimed. I would note, for example, that I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the Flames probably won't shoot 17% at 4 on 4 next year. However, you might well look at their 8.8 even strength shooting percentage and think, "even if they don't do that again, it's not unreasonable to think they'll be above average and certainly better than the 7.8 they shot in 2013-2014". There are degrees of reasonable expectation. __________________ "The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno Last edited by CorsiHockeyLeague; 05-12-2015 at 09:22 PM.