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Old 05-10-2015, 10:13 AM   #616
Daradon
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Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
I'd rather he handled Ukrain through consensus with our allies, rather than pretending we could strong arm Russia on our own. I'm willing to say that he has been good on some international trade that you mention though at a cost. For instance, he basically has given in to China's human rights abuses and has been more than willing to let our oil induistry be bought out by them, which I think is dangerous. I'm also strongly against the TPP, its secrecy and what it gives up regarding Canadian sovereignty. Opening Canada's markets is a good policy that he is pursuing, I just don't think it should be done at any costs, which seams to be how it unfolds.

In my mind he is also a major reason why Keystone has failed so badly due to his boneheaded moves regarding environmental issues. I think he has done more harm to the oil industry than help by being so one sided. Had he provided some movement on environmental protections(not just Keystone, but the entire industry), Obama may have been more willing.
As I mentioned, scientific reasons are why I will not vote for him and that strongly includes environmental reasons.

As for China, I'm at a loss for what to do with them. I wished for a long time for strong governments to stand up to there abuses. But it just isn't going to happen. I guess I resigned myself to the fact that a better middle class there, will fight and earn those freedoms themselves. That was the whole point. Make a middle class, it will influence government and fight for freedoms.

And let's face it, they are the biggest population and I believe of last year the biggest econony. To impose our values on them is probably foolhearty. I'm a big defender of internatiol freedoms, but you gotta pick your battles.

To wrap up, I do think Harper has been a good statesman. Not inspring by any means. But steady, responsible. Some good moves. Except for the science thing.

I'm loving our discourse. Hit me back if you have more.
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