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Old 05-04-2015, 10:25 AM   #28
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I don't think that there's a "but" that applies here.

as in

I get freedom of speech "But" they were spitting in the face of a religion and that's what happens.

To me if we say that then how can we then separate Islam from radical Islam.

The US and other Western democracies are countries that worship the freedom of speech, and of expression, they embrace the ability to create satire and debate things politically.

So is it maybe distasteful to have that cartoon contest? Absolutely, but is it a fundamental part of their package of rights? big time.

When the use of violence comes into play and the threat of violence to attack a fundamental, defining right, there can't be a "but" to justify it.

You can't surrender your rights due to fear of violent reprisals that shouldn't be justifiable in any way. Its the classic victory for these monsters if you're willing to give up your freedom to do satire, or speak your mind, or be gay or whatever, in the face of not upsetting them and creating a violent response.

The goal of terrorists if to chip away at your sense of security, and your sense of being able to do what your entitled to do and to fundamental change your society to their way of thinking.

And once they see success, they'll double down. If tomorrow the President or the Prime Minister came out and made it illegal to make fun of create images of the prophet, the fundamentalists aren't going to stop, lay down their arms and join society, they have a long checklist of things that need to change for them to accept society. They'll move on to woman's dresses and conduct in public. They'll attack homosexuals, and people that say bad things about Islam. They'll push for those things that we in an open society find reprehensible.

Yes, you can attack the core issues of poverty and education and thin their pipeline, but they'll always be extremists, whether its religious, or environmental, or political, and the best solution is to root them out and either kill them, or force them to occupy their time in just trying to survive.

But there is no "But"
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