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Old 04-29-2015, 04:42 PM   #2153
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In the US the FBI gives a semi-official number of 400-500 per yer, and the real number is usually estimated to be at least double that.

For comparison, the same number for UK and Wales is typically around zero.

Here's a an actual expert (an Israel Defense Force veteran and a professor of Criminal Justice in New York) commenting on the issue:

https://prospect.org/article/expert-...lly-inadequate

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how you perceive the threat is a subjective thing, and how you go about neutralizing the threat is also a subjective thing, even though they're trained around this continuum of force that allows them to go from one step to another, or skip a number of stages based on their assessment of the situation. Their assessment of the situation sometimes can be exaggerated based on their previous experience, based on what's going on in any given moment, based on the bystanders' reactions. So it's a very complicated and complex issue that cannot be just explained by: "We have the right, we are authorized, and it's our discretion."
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An average training in the United States is fifteen weeks. Fifteen weeks is nothing. Police forces in other countries have twice, three times as long training as we have here.
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Q: Do you think that a controversy like this one will make police forces around the country more likely to reexamine how they do their training?

A: No.

Q: It won't make any difference at all?

A: No, and I'll tell you why. Ninety percent of the police budget goes to salaries in any department. So, whatever is left is allocated to equipment and some other stuff, and nothing is left for training. The majority of police departments around the country don't have in-service training. So if you don't have the money, you're not going to re-examine.
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An average police department, all they care about is whether you have a GED, and you didn't use drugs in the last three years. I mean, it's ridiculous. If somebody looks at this a little bit closer, then it's really scary.
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PW: Is the training and the resulting way the cops deal with the public—not just about the use of force but about everything—do you think that is superior in other Western countries, too?

MH: I don't think, I know, because I do research with police departments in other countries, I see their training, I visit the departments, their police academies. That's what I've been doing for almost twenty years, so I know exactly that it's superior over there—not in each and every country, but the majority of police forces in democratic countries today —yes, absolutely.
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