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Old 04-27-2015, 12:22 PM   #145
mikeecho
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
I don't know. Hartley's record was not very good in his first season with the same core that Brent failed with. I don't discount the excellent job Hartley has done but IMO a big part about the change in the team's fortunes centers around a change in captaincy and complete removal of the old core of players.
All of which should have made the Flames competitive by the 2016-17 season.
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