[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by transplant99

OK...so what? You have stated, very clearly and on multiple occasions, that the government controls mainstream media. Is that not your stance any longer? If it isn't, then I agree with you.

The issue is a little more complex than you try to make it out to be. But you know that and are attempting to turn it into a black and white issue to attempt to discredit the view that contradicts your own. There are certain media sources that promote what ever messge the government (RNC really) wishes to insert into public opinion. These outlets are the majority in this country. Then there are corporate owned outlets that can be influenced to promote or pull stories through political and economic pressure. These outlets are the large in number as well. These two entities are no longer true news media and become nothing more than signal repeaters, echoing what ever message is inserted into their stream. Finally there are sources that still do real news, and don't care who they run over to get to it. They focus on facts, not opinion. They get multiple sources on a story, and they cross check those sources. They do not bury stories because they may **** off an advertiser or some clown in office. They are the public record and they take their job of informing the general public of what is really happening out there very seriously. They are real media, the others are infotainment at best. But I think you already know this, but are just too proud to admit to it.

No drive-by here. I read the article and posted it. The content stands on its own.

Ah, gotcha. Whenever an article is friendly to your opinion its all good, but the minute it isn't, it isn't worth the light of day.

As for the rest....it's been done to death.

If its been done to death, then why post this article? You seem to contradict yourself.

Two planes hit two towers in NYC...they collapsed. This I saw happen live.

Again, on a simplistic level you are right. This is what we all saw on television, but sometimes what we see isn't always true.

BTW... You were in New York that day? You were in the WTC when it happened? Wow, you never shared that information with us before.

One plane hit the pentagon. It was reported minutes after it happened.

Was it? That's funny, because a lot of the information that came out in the minutes that followed contradict that story. Only an hour or two after the fact did the story become more aligned with what would become the "official" story.

Another plane was commandeered by hostages and crashed. Audio calls to numerous family members confirm this, some on tape to this day.

Or so the official story goes. There is evidence to suggest otherwise. Oh, but I forgot, there was a swell movie made about the incident, so its true.

Those are my beliefs.

Good for you. My beliefs are different. I've taken the time to investigate the matters and educate myself on whta happened that day, and there are too many inconsistencies and coincidences for my liking. If you did the same research I suspect you would come to the same conclusion. Any intelligent being would. The difference is that there are too many people out there that are too damn lazy to do the work, or are too afraid to confront their greatest fear, that they are sheep being lead to the slaughter (figuratively).

You can believe whatever you like, but you have absolutely no proof to back up your beliefs other than "theories" of some alternative story.

Really? There is more scientific proof to support my beliefs than there is to support yours. There is plenty cooberative evidence to support my claims, much of it from people that were on the ground at the WTC. Oh wait, I keep forgetting that you're on the "side" that also defends Intelligent Design as the only true story of how the universe was created. So scientific proof has no room in your little world. All you need is a "story" from some "authority figure" for it to become "truth". Well, you have that. Bush has said that the "evil doers" perpetrated the act and that they acted alone. Good enough for you! Sorry, not good enough for me. I remain a skeptic, and the number of people that share those views are growing each day.

As I said, any time you want to go head-to-head on this subject I'm game (no dogpiling). I'll poke so many holes in the official story that you'll think its the Oilers defense. Until you want to buck up, please refrain from posting stuff like this as it encourages the juvenile drivebys from *******s like your pal HOZ.