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Originally Posted by IgiTang
I'm not saying its right... I'm saying that everyone knows the issue exists including these women who chose to go down there and put themselves in the middle of the crowd and chose to lift their shirts regardless of being chanted at or not.
I get the concept of #saferedmile, and everyone being able to share equally for the joy of celebration and certain groups are taking it too far. But being there and participating while knowing what is taking place is essentially participating in the act.
Its not like these girls are being blindsided.
If they chose to go down there, they need to be prepared to potentially be harassed, in that be prepared to protect themselves by removing themselves from the situation and/or standing up against it.
It's not right, but these guys are being encouraged by the girls that are actually lifting their shirts and enjoying the crowds chanting at other girls lifting g their shirts. In many pictures, girls are seen chanting and smiling and cheering on these girls.
As much as guys are responsible for being g A-holes, girls are equally as responsible. IMO.
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No, they're not. I don't want to put words in your mouth here, but this sounds a lot like "if you don't want to get cat-called or asked to take your top off, don't go to the red mile, because cat-calling and repeated requests for nudity is just what happens there."
That is the opposite of a fun and inclusive environment. The point is to make it a good environment for everyone, not to exclude people for not wanting to have to put up with sexist jerk behaviour. And not to make participation
contingent upon accepting that behaviour as an inevitability, because it obviously isn't. It's not like guys can't help being drooling idiots.