[Phanuthier]

Also WRT to the Ferland thing... yes Treliving asking and targetted Ferland, but do you happen to know how many times Treliving has his hands in other teams cookie jar? He heavily recruited Hathaway (was point of contact), heavily recruited Jooris in Pheonix, knew the ins and outs of Ferland, Sven, Bennett and Monahan before the Flames drafted him, had tales to talk about Brodie while he was still in the AHL, talked about Gio's overage play in juniors and also tried to get him on a PTO.... Treliving his has hands in lots of cookie jars, not just Ferland. He probably called and asked about a lot of prospects that didn't turn out either.

(Side note : one thing that really impresses me about Treliving is he really knows the ins and outs of many different players, in many different leagues. Feaster admitted that he doesn't watch juniors or NCAA hockey, didn't even watch the WJC one year... I feel kind of bad dumping on a guy in this thread, especially since I think its pretty cool he's still a huge fan of the team and is totally pumped at how the Flames are doing right now, but he seemed kind of oblivious sometimes what the hell was going on, especially when his reports dropped the ball. Contrast this to Treliving, who won't get caught with his pants down the same way, ala Cervenka.)