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Hugh Jahrmes · 03-29-2015, 08:21 PM

Dunno why fans seem to be digging for reasons to not like the guy.

The "toxic situation" described doesn't mean that our system is toxic, or that our commitment to earning ice time negatively affects or prospects imo. I realize he is in the belly of the beast now, and their writers are going to point out his strengths alongside our "failure" to nurture them, while also working on his weaknesses.

As was pointed out above, the early expectations set on Sven by management, fans, and likely himself combined with the fact our club&farm affiliate do not play a game that caters to his individual strengths seemed to grind down on the player over time and reveal what many would describe as a mentally fragile, "not quite there yet" maturity-wise prospect (myself included, to a degree). Only thing I saw differently was entitlement; to me it was frustration/disappointment developed not towards the organization itself, but at a situation that was becoming clear would never allow Sven to hit his ceiling, and also at himself as a player for being unable to adapt to change that outcome. I firmly believe he enjoyed being a Flame, and that much of the opinion around here is emotionally rooted, defending the team (which is fine, really), and also magnified by where he ends up.

For Sven as a player, the situation was either toxic, or approaching that level very soon.. That doesn't have to be a mark against this organization, nor on him as a player to the degree many would suggest.

Hopefully the kid has a stellar career (after his production falls to laughable borderline "cut from any ECHL squad" levels for as long as it takes for Vancouver to move him/allow him to find his groove elsewhere).

03-29-2015, 08:21 PM	#1480
Hugh Jahrmes Powerplay Quarterback Join Date: Nov 2010 Exp:	Dunno why fans seem to be digging for reasons to not like the guy. The "toxic situation" described doesn't mean that our system is toxic, or that our commitment to earning ice time negatively affects or prospects imo. I realize he is in the belly of the beast now, and their writers are going to point out his strengths alongside our "failure" to nurture them, while also working on his weaknesses. As was pointed out above, the early expectations set on Sven by management, fans, and likely himself combined with the fact our club&farm affiliate do not play a game that caters to his individual strengths seemed to grind down on the player over time and reveal what many would describe as a mentally fragile, "not quite there yet" maturity-wise prospect (myself included, to a degree). Only thing I saw differently was entitlement; to me it was frustration/disappointment developed not towards the organization itself, but at a situation that was becoming clear would never allow Sven to hit his ceiling, and also at himself as a player for being unable to adapt to change that outcome. I firmly believe he enjoyed being a Flame, and that much of the opinion around here is emotionally rooted, defending the team (which is fine, really), and also magnified by where he ends up. For Sven as a player, the situation was either toxic, or approaching that level very soon.. That doesn't have to be a mark against this organization, nor on him as a player to the degree many would suggest. Hopefully the kid has a stellar career (after his production falls to laughable borderline "cut from any ECHL squad" levels for as long as it takes for Vancouver to move him/allow him to find his groove elsewhere). __________________ Long time listener, first time caller.