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Old 03-28-2015, 09:34 PM   #222
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The timeline you have is wrong. Jimmy working in the mailroom precedes the events of the tazing by probably a few years. The purpose of this flashback is to show the relationship between Hamlin and Jimmy (ie. Hamlin is a complete prick to Jimmy but smiles through it while he tells Jimmy he doesn't have a chance at working in the company). When Jimmy doesn't get the job at H&M he goes back to being a conman as we saw in the first episode of the series.
No, I have it right. I'm not talking about the tazing incident, I'm talking about him working in the mailroom/getting his diploma as coming after him being Slippin' Jimmy. I know all of it occurs before the current narrative. It goes:

Jimmy getting bailed out, promising to change ---> working at the mailroom, turning his life around by passing the bar ---> Chuck stealing the paper, getting tazed, and coming home.

The point is, he wasn't Slippin' Jimmy when Chuck first became ill, which occurs sometime between Jimmy working in the mailroom and the present events (Chuck tells the doctor that he's been suffering from the effects for approximately 18 months). Therefore, his antics and behavior could not have logically caused Chuck's illness as Slippin' Jimmy was a thing of the past before Chuck became ill.

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Then the show shifts to present day where Jimmy is investigating the nursing home fraud. Jimmy pushes the boundaries and acts in a seemingly dishonest way (that Chuck asks him about where Chuck initially believes Jimmy broke the law) while challenging a multimillion dollar company. Surprise surprise the symptoms return. If anything you don't understand the complexity of the shows timelines and again the episode (Rico) shows a correlation between Jimmy's dishonest behavior and Chuck's symptoms. It's not in a subtle way either, the writers are pretty much cramming it down our throats to develop Jimmy's moral character.
Again, you mistook my point and my general understanding of the show.

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The whole show has been developing the notion that Jimmy is a silvertongue with rather deplorable morality in his younger years. To me it's obvious the show is supposed to be counter to Breaking Bad how Walt slowly turned evil. Jimmy slowly turns good and his dishonest behavior was so impactful it even ruined his brothers life. The reason being imo to demonstrate how truly bad of a person he used to be, that he wouldn't outright murder someone but that his actions impacted lives drastically.
If you go back to my comments with the knowledge I've tried to make clear here you might change your opinion. I get that Jimmy is an ethically complex character, he always was even in BB. He briefly reverts to Slippin' Jimmy to gain business and secure the Kettelman's. Outside of that, as I've said before, he's been a more righteous character than not.

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Just based on the way the story is told everything indicates that Chuck's agoraphobia is Jimmy's fault, writers don't go out of there way to clearly focus on a certain point if it's a red herring. The show has flashbacks every episode and the timeline is confusing for sure simply because Odenkirk's visual age is unaltered through what is likely a 15 year span of his story so far. It's unlikely the symptoms would disappear immediately anyways, lifestyle changes are usually gradual and breaking a debilitating agoraphobia most definitely would leave some residual effects. We have seen that the symptoms come and go as Jimmy acts dishonestly and pushes his luck and we have seen that it's psychosomatic (as shown by the doctor turning the bed on). The clues may seem small but they are emblematic of the reality of the situation.
No it doesn't. Apart from the single scene following Chuck's return home, there has been absolutely no indication at all that Jimmy is associated with Chuck's illness. Now, that isn't to say that's what the writers intended and will make clear in future episodes, but nothing in the story so far concretely indicates that Jimmy caused Chuck's illness.
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