[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Man some of you can be condescening, and way off the mark if you suggest that everyone that thought going into Iraq was a good idea at the time won't be man enough to admit it's not going well.

It goes both ways Bingo. Those on the side that support the war are just as bad.

Here I am.

There you are. Good on you for showing up and taking your lumps, although I wouldn't say anything was directed towards you in the first place. You're more of a Switzerland supporter than you are a US kind of guy.

And I'm not sure I'd even change my mind now. I might use hindsight to alter the way I went in (boots on the ground count, tactics, etc) but then what country wouldn't change a war plan with hindsight at his disposal.

I'm disappointed to hear you say that. After all the stuff that has come out in the wash and how the lies have been exposed, I can't believe that doesn't change your mind.

Post 911 the US just couldn't let another issue fester, and Hussein was certainly an issue. If everything went the complete opposite.

1. US didn't go in
2. He did have WMD
3. And a suitcase bomb exploded in NY

Bought into the fear angle have you? Bingo, LOOK OUT BEHIND IT! IT'S ****ING USAMA BIN LADEN AND HE'S GOT A NUKE!!! Sorry, I had to do it. Seriously, if a terrorist organization was going to get a nuke they would have got one a long time ago. They would have bought one from one of the Soviet Republics. Developing a weapons plan is so costly and time consuming, it's just easier to buy one and be done with it. For chrying outloud, Pakistan is the country that gave the **** to North Korea, so why the hell wouldn't they give it to their buddies like al Qaeda? There is no serious threat in that shape or form. But it does make for a good headline and gives O'Reilly a bunch of topics to natter on and on about!

the anti-Bush crowd would have called him a coward and a guy unable to act upon a growing concern.

You mean like the Bushies are doing or did to Clinton?

I just can't honsestly say I would have done any different given the information at the time and the consequences in that chair of being wrong.

So yeah ... here I am ... no tail between my legs, and no shame in the fact that it didn't go as well as it could have.

Based on the information that the White House cobbled together, or the information the military was trying to tell the world? I seem to remember the military commanders saying that Iraq was no threat and that going in would be a mistake. Zinni got canned for saying so. I think the media just got caught up in the vaccuum of FauxNews and followed their lead. At the time, none of the other media outlets knew that FauxNews was really the White House and vice versa. I guess hindsight is helpful in that regard.