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The anti-stats crowd is hilariously uninformed, but the pro-stats side is also overly zealous. You can't use a proxy and overinflate its importance. There will come a time soon when the proxy won't be needed and then maybe we'll have useful data.
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100% agree, but I don't think people are overinflating its importance for the most part (maybe sensationalist guys like Lambert). It's really more of an accusation you hear from the anti-stats guys: "You think this explains everything! Why even play the games? Why not just hand the Cup to the team with the highest CORSI snicker snicker?"
Last sentence there is dead on though. Personally I can't wait for SportVU, we'll get to start all over again in determining what helps teams win and what doesn't, only on a much more granular scale.
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But the idea that you can't use stats because the data is inaccurate is also comical. We aren't working out of a textbook here, this is the real world. Data is dirty. If we were worried about working with pristine data there wouldn't be such a thing as statistics. It's also comical how the anti-stats crowd tries to discredit the stats crowd by rewriting their arguments into something ridiculous, because that's always worked in a debate on the internet.
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fixed.