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Old 03-13-2015, 12:32 PM   #243
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Actually, the only thing that matters is what Russell and rest of the Flames believe in this situation. And lets, for arguments sake say Russell's belief represents the belief of the rest of the team.

If they believe it turned the tied, it's likely because of the emotional reaction they felt to it during the game. While I agree, it doesn't mean previous fights in other games or future fights in upcoming games will have the same effect, if Russell is saying it worked the other night, it likely did. He has a pulse on what that did emotionally for the team in that moment, if it gave them momentum then it likely did, and in this case we saw the results on the ice to back it up, not only in visible play but also goals.

I'd say it's tough to argue that given the result on the ice, and the comments from Russell that in this case, the fight sparked the comeback. I agree on a holistic level, a correlation to fights and results could be made to see just how often the "fight" technique works.
I was just about to come back and type something similar. I agree with you generally. And that is to say that I recognise the incredible power of beliefs, especially those that are formed within groups.

However, even whether we might agree that this fight had an impact on the play of the Flames that followed, this is not evidence of the positive effect of fighting in hockey. It is only evidence for the positive effect of beliefs about fighting in hockey. Even then, the studies that have been conducted show rather consistently that the usefulness of fighting in hockey is pretty negligible.
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