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JiriHrdina · 03-12-2015, 10:12 AM

This is awesome work.
As we think about ways to improve the league let’s make sure we are solving the actual problems.
Before I comment on possible solutions, and there are some good suggestions here, I want to make some of my own observations

- When we look at the top teams, they share some things in common. First – they are helmed by long-time GMs. This is not coincidence. As with any game, the longer you play the better you get. Except for Cheese.

- Those teams are also common in that they trade and trade a lot. They don’t emotionally attach themselves to players – but rather seek to maximize the value of the asset. One of the main reasons I have a ton of chips right now is that in the last 6 months I traded both Crosby and Malkin for a haul of assets. I pinpointed that I felt at this point their value in the league would start to drop – not huge – but enough that I wanted to move on from those players and optimize my return

My point here is that whatever we do, you may not fully solve the issue because the GMs are on top are simply good GMs who do well in terms of maximizing asset value by remaining active. These GMs also are the type that are
- Drafting often and well
- Signing prospect free agents
- Participating actively on the forums to get free cap

Basically doing all the things you need to do to build and maintain a good team.

Also on the comment that trading is at an all time low – let’s be careful stating that as a fact when we don’t know if it is true. I hear this every season. Trading is at an all-time low. I don’t believe it is. I think trading this season is the same as it has been most seasons. And frankly if you want more trades – trade more. The reason why there aren’t more trades is that some GMs have a warped view on value. If you want to trade, let go of your personal attachment to a player – and trade them.

On the specific suggestions:

1) First round draft picks can only spend 2 seasons in the ECHL
- Don’t mind this idea. Good one to think about. Easy to implement as it just means processing all drafted players with a 2 year contract instead of 3.

2) Once a player reaches 100 NHL games they have to be played on the CPHL roster the following season.
- Conceptually I like this one but execution wise it is a little tricky. Would prefer to simplify and say that any ECHLer with 100 NHL games must be signed to the NHL/AHL. Teams should have the ability to send guys up and down from the AHL at their discretion, except for current waiver rules.

3) Two year ELC's for all first round draft picks (increase the cost to hold them)
- Not a fan of this one. NHL has 3. I think if you do the two above, mainly the first one, you don’t need this one. Having 3 years of a cheap rookie is an important strategic component.

4) Rebalancing draft
- I will fight this one and fight it hard. Maybe I’m biased but this is simply a punishment for teams that have built strong asset basis and have played the game hard and the right way. The GMs at the top of this list include most of our most active and competitive General Managers. Why punish that. Frankly if we do this it would be a massive demotivation to me because basically I would be punished for being a good GM. That’s not what this game is about

When I look at this list I actually see signs of encouragement because teams like New Jersey, Phoenix, Dallas and San Jose are near the top of the list. I would remind everyone that it wasn’t too long ago that these 4 teams were amongst the VERY worst when it came to the quality of their assets. They’ve turned it around by being active, smart and involved.

That’s how this game works. The more you work as a GM – the better you will do.

I’m open to some of the above suggestions but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

03-12-2015, 10:12 AM	#18
JiriHrdina I believe in the Pony Power Join Date: Jul 2003 Exp:	This is awesome work. As we think about ways to improve the league let’s make sure we are solving the actual problems. Before I comment on possible solutions, and there are some good suggestions here, I want to make some of my own observations - When we look at the top teams, they share some things in common. First – they are helmed by long-time GMs. This is not coincidence. As with any game, the longer you play the better you get. Except for Cheese. - Those teams are also common in that they trade and trade a lot. They don’t emotionally attach themselves to players – but rather seek to maximize the value of the asset. One of the main reasons I have a ton of chips right now is that in the last 6 months I traded both Crosby and Malkin for a haul of assets. I pinpointed that I felt at this point their value in the league would start to drop – not huge – but enough that I wanted to move on from those players and optimize my return My point here is that whatever we do, you may not fully solve the issue because the GMs are on top are simply good GMs who do well in terms of maximizing asset value by remaining active. These GMs also are the type that are - Drafting often and well - Signing prospect free agents - Participating actively on the forums to get free cap Basically doing all the things you need to do to build and maintain a good team. Also on the comment that trading is at an all time low – let’s be careful stating that as a fact when we don’t know if it is true. I hear this every season. Trading is at an all-time low. I don’t believe it is. I think trading this season is the same as it has been most seasons. And frankly if you want more trades – trade more. The reason why there aren’t more trades is that some GMs have a warped view on value. If you want to trade, let go of your personal attachment to a player – and trade them. On the specific suggestions: 1) First round draft picks can only spend 2 seasons in the ECHL - Don’t mind this idea. Good one to think about. Easy to implement as it just means processing all drafted players with a 2 year contract instead of 3. 2) Once a player reaches 100 NHL games they have to be played on the CPHL roster the following season. - Conceptually I like this one but execution wise it is a little tricky. Would prefer to simplify and say that any ECHLer with 100 NHL games must be signed to the NHL/AHL. Teams should have the ability to send guys up and down from the AHL at their discretion, except for current waiver rules. 3) Two year ELC's for all first round draft picks (increase the cost to hold them) - Not a fan of this one. NHL has 3. I think if you do the two above, mainly the first one, you don’t need this one. Having 3 years of a cheap rookie is an important strategic component. 4) Rebalancing draft - I will fight this one and fight it hard. Maybe I’m biased but this is simply a punishment for teams that have built strong asset basis and have played the game hard and the right way. The GMs at the top of this list include most of our most active and competitive General Managers. Why punish that. Frankly if we do this it would be a massive demotivation to me because basically I would be punished for being a good GM. That’s not what this game is about When I look at this list I actually see signs of encouragement because teams like New Jersey, Phoenix, Dallas and San Jose are near the top of the list. I would remind everyone that it wasn’t too long ago that these 4 teams were amongst the VERY worst when it came to the quality of their assets. They’ve turned it around by being active, smart and involved. That’s how this game works. The more you work as a GM – the better you will do. I’m open to some of the above suggestions but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.