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Originally Posted by gvitaly
The only thing that grinds my gears about this trade is that it is yet another (over hyped?) first rounder that didn't pan out for the Flames. It is the wrong way to look at it, but it feels like we traded the 13th overall pick for a 2nd rounder. The resulting question is how much value should we really put into 1st round picks?
2011.....Sven Bartschi........66GP (Didn't want to play for CGY)
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The bolded part isn't true (or at least wasn't always true). He wanted to play for Calgary, which was why he was so sour about being demoted so often.
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Are Shark fans still pissed about trading Kipper for a 2nd when the second turned into Vlassic?
If the flames get good value for the 2nd then it could be a win-win trade just like Kipper
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I was thinking about this today and Rico Fata came to mind. He was essentially in the same situation Baertschi was in. He had some abilities that made him look awesome at times, but he lacked in too many other ways and couldn't put it all together (he was a training camp warrior from what I recall). Instead of trying to cut their losses and trading him before he was waiver eligible, they tried to sneak him through waivers in early 2001 and lost him for nothing.
Hypothetically speaking, if they could have traded him for a 2nd rounder in 2002, they would have had a shot at the following players:
Jarret Stoll
Josh Harding
Trevor Daley
Matt Greene
Duncan Keith
Matt Stajan
Jiri Hudler
Johnny Boychuk
Tomas Fleishmann
It's still a gamble of course that a 2nd rounder will become something, but in hindsight, the gamble of a 2nd rounder would have been better than the gamble of either hoping the player turned out or trying to sneak him through waivers.