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Old 02-19-2015, 01:02 PM   #2265
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Originally Posted by getbak View Post
The 9th Avenue station in Option D would only be half as deep as the deepest subway station in the world.

This one in Kiev is 105.5m deep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_%28Kiev_Metro%29. The escalator ride is five minutes long.

57 of the 64 stations in the St Petersburg Metro system are at depth of at least 50m.


Here's the escalator ride at one of the deep stations on the Washington Metro line (the longest single escalator in the Western Hemisphere):

That station is only 35m deep. It's not the deepest on the Washington system, but the deeper one only has elevator access.


Going 50m deep wouldn't be ideal, but it also wouldn't be unheard of. As already mentioned, they could also potentially have an exit from the station to the south that comes out around Samis Road, just north of the bridge. This would not only allow people to bypass the climb up the hill, it could also serve as an emergency exit for the station if the elevators ever broke down.
So, are you arguing that, because it isn't the deepest station ever built (those stations were built as bomb shelters by the crazy soviets, btw), and the escalator ride would only be 5 full minutes long (it would take longer to climb the escalator than it would to stay on the train and go to the next station), and that a handful of other stations around the world have been built deeper for larger, higher volume full subway systems, that this means that we should build a super deep station on our little LRT system to service a tiny section of our future system?

Sounds crazy to me.

IF we go the crazy deep route - and I do think it's crazy - then we should drop the 9th st station all together, increase the grade to 6% as soon as you are out from under the river, and raise the depth of the 16th st station - cause that one also has a super deep escalator ride. Build the 16th st station as far south as is feasable to capture that portion of the city. I mean, for goodness sakes, if you are correct getback, it would take less time to walk from the edge of the hill to 16th than it would take to ride the escalator down that far and then take the train (google says 12 minute walk), and there would be almost no one in that capture area, as the edge of the hill cuts it to a very narrow triangle.
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