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Old 02-18-2015, 12:25 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken View Post
And you're basically guaranteed not to get any of them. If you get a 2nd for Glencross, amazing, because he's not worth it. I wouldn't turn down a 2nd.

But the argument that only a high 2nd round pick or some combination of assets that is greater value than that is the only thing worth more than keeping him is absurd.



Not dealing a player for poor return isn't sacrificing the future to placate the now. Not dealing that player and using the playoffs from this year as any sort of argument for not dealing him is.




There are things in between, absolutely. None of them should include 'because playoffs'.

Where would this roster be without Kris Russell right now? Acquired with a 5th round pick. Joe Colbourne? 4th round pick.

Now imagine being able to acquire those guys last year for those same picks and STILL being able to draft in those same rounds.

These things add up.
I agree with everything except the bold kind of confuses me. You agree to the former, so what does it matter how someone justifies it? The ability to keep him for the playoffs is pretty much the only silver lining if management doesn't think they will get good value in a trade. It's not "Keep him for the drive and they playoffs because he'll be the difference between 1st round and 2nd round", it's "Well, we won't help the team much by dealing him, so might as well keep him." I mean the fact that teams that are in similar position to us are looking to make deals for him tells you that many see him as a valuable player for the post season, so why not us too? We basically get one of the top deadline players by sacrificing nothing but a hypothetical that we wouldn't have otherwise.

The personal issues like the discount and his commitment to the team through these tough years may not hold weight for you or others (or me really all that much), but people tend to forget that these are people with feelings and buy/selling/trading them like cattle is not ALWAYS prudent business.

I agree these things add up, but disagree that forgoing one single mid-pick is "sacrificing the future". That's the black and white part that bothers me. There are a lot of factors that go into trading someone, especially with the position the team is in.
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