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Originally Posted by GGG
Shaming to conform to social norms was maybe is and important part of our evolutionary make up. How do things like racisim, homophobia and others get changed. The first step is usually logic and converstaion but when that fails what are societies options to further in act positive change? Refusing to tolerate and objecting to the offending behaviour is the only way to stop it.
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The social norms sword cuts both ways.
Many of the attitudes that SJWs are trying to enforce have only recently become social norms. So if we had the internet in 1960, would it have been cool to shame gays in order to enforce social norms? And some attitudes that are not social norms today, and not on the radar of SJWs, will undoubtedly become social norms in the future.
This is why, despite sharing many of their goals, I despise SJWs. Real social progress will not be made by conformist zealots. Whatever happened to tolerance? I mean the true kind of tolerance where you recognize it's okay for people to have opinions you disagree with profoundly?
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
Is that because people will smarten up and (i) stop posting dumb things and/or (ii) stop harassing people who post dumb things? I don't see how something like that can be regulated externally (i.e. by laws or other restrictions).
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If every private conversation was broadcast on the internet, all social media platforms would melt down with the outrage and hysteria. People have different opinions. People often make offensive and mean jokes. People argue about stuff. This is human nature, and it will never change.
So the question is whether we should even pretend Facebook, Twitter, etc. are private conversations. Technically, they are not. But a great many people still treat them that way, so that tells you people want to be able to use digital media to have private, group discussions. Maybe we'll develop more sophisticated gradients of private versus public communication.
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Originally Posted by Cappy
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I would think a little bit of both. People will definitely realize that their actions on social media have huge consequences and that anonymous is a thin veil easily pierced with the right knowledge and motivation.
But I also think that sooner or later some people will just stop wasting their time on crap like this.
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Yeah, you would think there will eventually be a tipping point where half or more of people have disclosed something embarrassing on the internet, and they will simply stop caring that anonymous strangers denounce them for it.
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Originally Posted by Cappy
.Who has the time to troll people like this? (I realize this is entirely subjective as, apparently, many people have the time) How many social justice warriors on twitter really think they are doing the world a service, and when will they realize that their twitter crusades do nothing. When will all these want-a-be comedians realize their lowest common denominator humour is not attracting the attention they so crave. Sooner or later people will smarten up right?
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. There is an effectively limitless supply of deeply unhappy people out there with loads of time on their hands to vent their frustrations on the internet. They will always find an outlet for their bile. The question is whether the rest of us will reach a point where we simply don't give a crap what the self-appointed templars of righteousness have to say.