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Lucky boy · 07-19-2006, 08:52 AM

It looks like this thread is going down the waste side, so here is an attempt to bring it back to a level where we can civily debate the situation at hand.

First off, lets try to keep the insults to a minimum. I know I am guilty of insulting others as well, but I will try to stop doing it (except for Azure, he is a tool).

In regards to posters justifying the bombing because the Lebanese government is at fault, I would argue against that by saying that bombing has affected the civilians more than anyone else. Posters who condemn the rockets fired at Isreal yet support the Isreal bombing of Lebanon are not seeing the reality of the situation. It is wrong on both sides. People can not become targets because of their government. If you believe people should be held accountable for thier governments, then you have reached the mentality of a terrorist. The victims of 9/11 died because of their government foriegn policies, should they be held accountable for it? Ofcourse not, they had nothing to do with anything. Just like the lebanese have nothing to do with anything.

The counter argument that Isreal bombings and Hezbollah rockets can not be compared because one is a terrorist group while the other is a civil nation is null. A person does not become a terrorist when he disagrees with a certain nations policies. A person becomes a terrorist when he attempts to use fear as a mean to get his message across. Hezzbollah are not terrorists because they disagree with Isreal, Hezzbollah are terrorists because they are willing to kill anyone that is associated with Isreal. In my opinion, Isreal lack of fear of civilian deaths is border line terrorism. Sure they try to aviod civilan deaths, but they don't exactly sweat it when they do hit civilians.

We haven't really debated Iran's involvment in the conflict that much. I find what is going on right now is similar to what happened to Iraq. In the months before the invasion of Iraq, any form of terror that happened in the world was some how related to Iraq. Iran has been in the news alot lately... to me, I think the same thing is happening all over again. Thoughts?

07-19-2006, 08:52 AM	#366
Lucky boy Scoring Winger Join Date: Aug 2005 Exp:	It looks like this thread is going down the waste side, so here is an attempt to bring it back to a level where we can civily debate the situation at hand. First off, lets try to keep the insults to a minimum. I know I am guilty of insulting others as well, but I will try to stop doing it (except for Azure, he is a tool). In regards to posters justifying the bombing because the Lebanese government is at fault, I would argue against that by saying that bombing has affected the civilians more than anyone else. Posters who condemn the rockets fired at Isreal yet support the Isreal bombing of Lebanon are not seeing the reality of the situation. It is wrong on both sides. People can not become targets because of their government. If you believe people should be held accountable for thier governments, then you have reached the mentality of a terrorist. The victims of 9/11 died because of their government foriegn policies, should they be held accountable for it? Ofcourse not, they had nothing to do with anything. Just like the lebanese have nothing to do with anything. The counter argument that Isreal bombings and Hezbollah rockets can not be compared because one is a terrorist group while the other is a civil nation is null. A person does not become a terrorist when he disagrees with a certain nations policies. A person becomes a terrorist when he attempts to use fear as a mean to get his message across. Hezzbollah are not terrorists because they disagree with Isreal, Hezzbollah are terrorists because they are willing to kill anyone that is associated with Isreal. In my opinion, Isreal lack of fear of civilian deaths is border line terrorism. Sure they try to aviod civilan deaths, but they don't exactly sweat it when they do hit civilians. We haven't really debated Iran's involvment in the conflict that much. I find what is going on right now is similar to what happened to Iraq. In the months before the invasion of Iraq, any form of terror that happened in the world was some how related to Iraq. Iran has been in the news alot lately... to me, I think the same thing is happening all over again. Thoughts? Last edited by Lucky boy; 07-19-2006 at 08:56 AM.