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Originally Posted by Regorium
Give me a break. They're unguided in terms of a lack of laser guidance, no TV guidance, no heat seeking missiles. Anyone with any common sense knows what unguided means.
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They're unguided in terms of what happens after thier fired, but they can still be fairly accurate when aiming at a Civilian population. Firing between map points isn't that difficult, its the same theory as firing a artillary shell. Its simple math.
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Originally Posted by Regorium
Just wondering. Are you all for just eliminating Lebanon from the map? Because that's really what it seems like.
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Thats a fairly accusatory statement, I certainly don't want Lebanon wiped off of the map, and I don't think anyone on this board has said anything to that point. However the destruction of Hamas, and the security of Israel's towns and civillians has to be recognized as part of the equation, and since Lebanon has been either unwilling or unable to control these factions that are actually in thier government, Israel is doing it. Now if you reverse that statement and I ask you if you want to see Israel wiped off of the map, I would be saying the same thing . . . but I certainly don't believe that. You have to look at the historical problems in the region when it comes to Israel's security.
The war in 1948 was a war of aggression launched against Israel by unified Arab forces
The 1956 was was launched by Israel after they received intelligence that they were going to be attacked again.
The 1967 (6 day war) was launched after attacks by Palestine forces, combined with actions from Egypt
The 1973 Yom Kipper War was launched against Israel by forces from Egypt and Syria with assistance from other Arab Nations
The 1982 was that you speak of was very similar to todays war, and was stated by Palestine raids from Bases in Lebanon.
If you look at the history you wonder why Israel lashes back, they feel that nobody is going to protect them from a hostile region that seems to be intent on destroying thier country. Time after time these groups have been untrustworthy which fuels Israel's paranoa, and forces the reaction that you've seen today.
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Originally Posted by Regorium
The resentment from the 1982 attacks, when Hezbollah was born. The youths of this generation knew civil war, but they did not know first-hand what Israel did to them before. Now they do.
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Don't make these groups out to be hero's or even soldiers. They're not, and they do more harm to thier own people then they do to Israel. What Israel has done to them, what about what they've done to themselves? In nearly every instance, Israel has had to bear the brunt of the attacks, or terrorist assaults and then have been condemned for fighting back.
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Originally Posted by Regorium
Whether or not they made a peace agreement is moot when you yourself have thousands of Lebanese prisoners, whether they have a charge or not.
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Why should Israel have to negotiate with Hezbollah, and why should they take the first steps. Everytime Israel has made a deal in the region its been thrown back in thier face. What makes this any different? Whats to guarantee the peace process if chances are that some of these realeased prisoners are back lighting the fuses or launching rockets the next day. Until groups like the Hezbollah, and Hamas recognize Israels right to survive and thier right to security, and put down thier arms there is no reason for Israel to do anything but exterminate them.