Re: "civilized":
In this context, it refers to a society that fights its wars for the purpose of keeping its civilians safe, using orthodox methods such as wearing uniforms, reporting to a democratically elected government, and having the ultimate goal of cessasion of hostilities, not conquest. You will (of course) dispute the assertion that America's current wars are intended to improve the security of its citizens. Ostensibly, that IS the purpose though, and the "hostilities" were very clearly started by certain parties across the ocean.
It specifically does NOT refer to a society that fights as a proxy for a hostile nation while stationed on another nation's soil, in an undemocratic society, reporting to no one, and using unmarked bases in civilian neighborhoods to attempt to hide from counter-attack. It does not refer to a group whose stated purpose is the elimination of an internationally recognized nation.
Does it sound like those definitions are based on "zionism?"
Re: "eradicating the extremists"
Yes....get rid of all of them on both sides, but obviously the definition of "extreme" depends on the observer. I consider it extreme to want to wipe Israel off the map, when it's clear that it's not going anywhere. Whether it should have been created or not in the first place is a different story...but that's somewhat irrelevant now, 60 years later. I consider it extreme to lob missiles across borders at non-military targets simply to terrorize the population. On the other hand, I consider it "heavy-handed" to bomb in civilian areas because the bad guys are there, but at least there is a legitimate military purpose in this.
You apparently consider Bush and his policies to be extreme. I'll assume we're referring mostly to foreign policy, as that's what the discussion is about. In that case, I have to wonder what you thought of his policies before 9/11? Before a group of whackos, acting outside of the rules of combat, attacked the country you're living in and killed 3000 innocent people. I would consider that attack a little extreme, and the Bush et. al response to be rather reserved in fact. Of course, this is likely irrelevant as well since the WTC was brought down by a Bush administration conspiracy in your looney tunes world.
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