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fatso · 01-29-2015, 03:49 PM

am I wrong that the article actually says it is IRFAN and not MAC that was the subject of the warrant? The only allegation against MAC in the warrant is this handing over of an envelope to an IRFAN member, which the RCMP says "may" have contained cash.

The fact that MAC was funding IRFAN between 2001 and 2010 isn't even in dispute because the RCMP claims they know about it through MAC's CRA disclosure (i.e. MAC was reporting it all to the government). Is that really that sketchy? In fact, MAC even stopped funding IRFAN four years before the government called them a terrorist group.

Isn't this just intentionally misleading by the SUN (or rather, appropriately leading to those who harbour anti-muslim suspicions)? Or am I not understanding the article? I have to say it is poorly written.

In any event, I don't want to pile on EE, but he deserves the calling out he is getting. What he said was bigoted, straight up. But even if someone can't understand that from the explanations provided by those like Jammies, the posting style deserves criticism.

EE has the second post in, and hasn't even bothered to comment on the article in any way, but instead runs a one-line troll of an entire religion. Why do posters even bother posting articles or asking specific questions if it's just going to instantly become a bash-fest of the broadest section of people? It's the same with articles pertaining to First Nations people. Every time, it almost immediately devolves into a criticism of First Nations (look at that article rubecube posted the other day). I get that discussions eventually degenerate, but it seems like lately they do so in the first 10 posts and there's not even any pretence of having read the article or trying to offer any kind of insight on the issues raised. It's just a chance to bemoan other groups' conduct (Canuck fans notwithstanding).

Was the CP Off-Topic forum always like this? I've noted that some really smart, insightful frequent posters stay away from these kinds of threads. It's a shame because I think they would add a lot, but I can't say I blame them. They may rightly feel it's not worth it.

01-29-2015, 03:49 PM	#110
fatso First Line Centre Join Date: Feb 2008 Exp:	am I wrong that the article actually says it is IRFAN and not MAC that was the subject of the warrant? The only allegation against MAC in the warrant is this handing over of an envelope to an IRFAN member, which the RCMP says "may" have contained cash. The fact that MAC was funding IRFAN between 2001 and 2010 isn't even in dispute because the RCMP claims they know about it through MAC's CRA disclosure (i.e. MAC was reporting it all to the government). Is that really that sketchy? In fact, MAC even stopped funding IRFAN four years before the government called them a terrorist group. Isn't this just intentionally misleading by the SUN (or rather, appropriately leading to those who harbour anti-muslim suspicions)? Or am I not understanding the article? I have to say it is poorly written. In any event, I don't want to pile on EE, but he deserves the calling out he is getting. What he said was bigoted, straight up. But even if someone can't understand that from the explanations provided by those like Jammies, the posting style deserves criticism. EE has the second post in, and hasn't even bothered to comment on the article in any way, but instead runs a one-line troll of an entire religion. Why do posters even bother posting articles or asking specific questions if it's just going to instantly become a bash-fest of the broadest section of people? It's the same with articles pertaining to First Nations people. Every time, it almost immediately devolves into a criticism of First Nations (look at that article rubecube posted the other day). I get that discussions eventually degenerate, but it seems like lately they do so in the first 10 posts and there's not even any pretence of having read the article or trying to offer any kind of insight on the issues raised. It's just a chance to bemoan other groups' conduct (Canuck fans notwithstanding). Was the CP Off-Topic forum always like this? I've noted that some really smart, insightful frequent posters stay away from these kinds of threads. It's a shame because I think they would add a lot, but I can't say I blame them. They may rightly feel it's not worth it. __________________ The great CP is in dire need of prunes! "That's because the productive part of society is adverse to giving up all their wealth so you libs can conduct your social experiments. Experience tells us your a bunch of snake oil salesman...Sucks to be you." ~Calgaryborn 12/06/09 keeping it really stupid!