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Originally Posted by blankall
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The history of Zionism goes back as far as the Jewish people. Jews established States in what is now Israel in the 100s, the 900s, and the 1600s. The states were crushed by nearby armies.
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This is a severely anachronistic reading.
The concept of zionism was born in the late 19th century. Seeing previous jewish states as parts of the same tradition is creating a retroactive continuity which probably does not describe previous events sensibly.
The whole concept of "state" as people generally use the word today is relatively new, born along with nationalism in the 18th century. It only became the dominant way of thinking in the early 20th century.
(For example as late as WWI many Italian soldiers had a very poor understanding of what "Italy" means. Many of them thought it meant the frontline.)
TLDR: Please do not talk of "zionist states" in times before the birth of "zionism" and "state".