The thing I don't like about the black flaming C is the lack of contrast between red and black and also the fact that yellow and white outlines pretty much blend together, looking like one thick outline when seen from distance.
This is how our logo IMHO should be outlined:
btw. those were also used for my jersey concepts in the "KK please read" thread:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...117010&page=48